Where is Marvin Hagler in your Top Middleweights ATG?

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No Robinson had the best resume period, his win/loss record against Angott, Zivic, LaMotta, Armstrong, Bell, Doyle, Gavilan, Fusari, Olson, Turpin, Fullmer and Basilio was 25-5-1...

    Greb's against Blackburn, Chip, the Gibbons, Dillon, Levinsky, O'Dowd, McTigue, Miske, Norfolk, Tunney, Loughran, Flowers, Slattery, Rosenbloom, Walker, Delaney and Flowers was 7-6-1...
     
    TBooze, Jul 4, 2007
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I have him at #7

    I know that's pretty low but it's a pretty good division.
     
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  3. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hence the flaw in Greb's record, he fought in the era of no decisions, against the 17 best fighters he fought, he had a near 50/50 record on fights that counted.
     
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  4. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    1.Hagler
    2.Monzon
    3.Greb
    4.Robinson
    5.Hopkins
     
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    1 Greb
    2 Monzon
    3 Burley
    4 Robinson
    5 Hagler
    6 Fitzsimmons
    7 Hopkins
    8 Ketchel
    9 Papp
    10 Tiger
    The thing that bothers me about Robinson is that he avoided all the badass black fighter's of his day. Burley being one along with the likes of Williams ect.
     
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  6. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He lost 3 times to Tunney. But indeed it is impossible to have 7-6-1
     
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  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, look at the record books...

    Over half his known resume is tainted with No decision bouts (180+)
     
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  8. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Number 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!! ..............
     
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  9. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good :good
     
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  10. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Record books ? Can help me with it please ? I am rather interested to see it.
     
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  11. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think there's a fair gap between SRL, Tommy Hearns and Roberto Duran on the one hand and DLH, Tito and Simon Brown on the other.

    The worst of that trio on Marv's resume is better than the best of the trio on Hops' resume.

    That said, Greb is a clear # 1 for me. And Hagler and Monzon are an interchangeable # 2 and #3. After that it does become rather debateable.
     
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  12. TBooze

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  13. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What has Harry Greb done at middleweight? I.e. exactly at or below 160lb. Lost to Tiger Flowers 3 times (argueably)?
     
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  14. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Beat Mickey Walker and Tommy Loughran
     
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  15. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which fight with Tommy Loughran was below 160lb limit?
    Mickey Walker was a useless fight with blown-up welterweight, as it was considered in contemporary sources and it turned out exactly that way, one-sided bout. For Greb to earn some money, was all it was.
     
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