Where Is Pacquiao On Your ATG List???

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  1. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Troll alert.
     
    Tomato(e) Can, Mar 3, 2018
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  2. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've got him #7 from 126-147.

    P4P... Somewhere in the top 25 is fair. Between 10-25.

    Top 5 if he'd retired before fighting roidquez.
     
    chitownfightfan, Mar 3, 2018
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I don't buy into the retiring early benefits greatness arguments.
     
    lufcrazy, Mar 3, 2018
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    532, just behind Gary Lockett.
     
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  5. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think in some cases it does, when a fighter is operating at such a high level I think it can diminish what they were once capable of . Most people won't remember them at their best, but leaving at the top. I think Lewis retirement was the perfect time . If he took the rematch and lost he would have looked at like he never faced a stylistic nightmare during his prime until then.
     
    renyo, Mar 3, 2018
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Depends what the criteria for ranking is.

    I rank on winnability so no matter how many past prime losses a boxer has it doesn't diminish their ranking for me
     
    lufcrazy, Mar 3, 2018
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  7. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well you're way off ranking is the way it should be. But i think for naysayers it leaves a lot of room to deny a fighters quality.
     
    renyo, Mar 3, 2018
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Everyone will have a different list so everyone will make their own minds up. If someone wants to judge a fighter for post prime losses, that's up to them.

    I don't. For example anything after Duran left WW, the wins he gets credit for, the losses don't detract from anything imo.
     
    lufcrazy, Mar 3, 2018
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  9. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Top 50 , I didn't want to believe it at first but you don't beat Hatton , Cotto and ODLH like you did then lose your punch power 3 fights later.

    Pac was very good but had help.
     
    rayrobinson, Mar 3, 2018
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  10. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    above Mayweather they both beat old people and weight drain mother ****ers but Pac beat better people and the 50-0 is bull **** unless he fought at heavyweight
     
    Ph33rknot, Mar 3, 2018
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  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Let me think.

    1.Ray Robinson
    2.Henry Armstrong
    3.Harry Greb
    4.Sam Langford
    5.Ezzard Charles
    6.Roberto Duran
    7.Mickey Walker
    8.Archie Moore
    9.Ray Leonard
    10.Benny Leonard
    11.Jimmy McLarnin
    12.Manny Pacquiao
    13.Floyd Mayweather
    14.Pernell Whitaker
    15.Emile Griffith
    16.Roy Jones Jr.
    17.Tony Canzoneri
    18.Billy Conn
    19.Jimmy Wilde
    20.Tommy Loughran
    21.Jimmy Bivins
    22.Barney Ross
    23.Willie Pep
    24.Julio Cesar Chavez
    25.Muhammad Ali
     
    OvidsExile, Mar 3, 2018
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  12. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's number 5 for me
     
    LD Boxer-Puncher, Mar 3, 2018
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  13. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Somewhere between 6 and 10.
     
    Perkin Warbeck, Mar 3, 2018
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  14. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Way lower than I would if he didn't pull his weight climbing title mirage to avoid Joan Guzman.
     
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    qwertyblahblah, Mar 3, 2018
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  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Floyd :pipi Manny !!!!
    Manny EARNED his success by FIGHTING like a MAN
    Floyd owes most of his later success tp Bob Bennett. The NSAC. USADA & Vegas boxing
     
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