Where was HBO's loyalty to Pacquiao?

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  1. Nat Turner

    Nat Turner Member banned Full Member

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    I remember so many of you pac fans accusing Mayweather of being unloyal for rejecting HBO's offer for Showtime's 5 years ago. Pac spent a decade plus for that Network and did so many PPV numbers for them, yet the turned their back on him when he physically started declining. You will think that HBO will consider the fact that they made so much money off this man and try and broadcast his fight just out of respect.
     
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  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They refused Pac/Vargas yet they'll televise Cotto/Kirkland on ppv. Maybe It was about Manny's homofobic comments that turned them against him.
     
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  3. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Nope. They still had May/Pac and Bradley/Pac 3. HBO doesn't care about controversy, this is the same network that brought you OZ. A prison series about man ****. Hookers at the Point and **** like that. HBO sports can't milk this cow i he don't sacrifice himself like ODLH did.
     
  4. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was pretty foul. Pac-Vargas would have done decent numbers with HBO backing and promotion. I literally saw no promotion for that fight and it did better than anything else this year
     
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  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao is the archetypal pro boxer. Rags to riches. Guns blazing in the ring. Will fight anyone, anytime, anywhere for any purse.

    The networks, managers, promoters have always screwed over the fighter. Its always been that way.

    The only way a fighter can make it financially is to somehow overcome all that by becoming a p4p talent and taking in some large purses. And even then much of that goes to other people and taxes.

    The networks don't care about the fighter man. They only see dollar signs. There eating themselves though because boxing is is basically in the crapper right now financially.
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    ODLH basically saved boxing financially. Or perhaps just delayed it's demise. Without him there is no Shane Mosley box office. Floyd and Pac don't become superstar PPV attractions. Which means Coto never becomes a big PPV fighter. Which hurts Canelo too.

    Without DLH we were looking at guys like Pac, Mayweather, Morales, Barrera being the biggest PPV fighters having 300K buys. Oscar was the cash cow man. Its crazy how much cash this guy would roll in.

    HBO wants Pac to do the same and get clowned by Crawford and Loma now because he's old. So they can have new PPV blood.
     
  7. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    says Bob ... who knows what it really did .. I don't know anybody locally that bought it. And I have both Pinoy and Mexican friends into boxing.
     
  8. Gil Gonzalez

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    There were lots of people who thought Floyd owed loyalty to HBO? And you think HBO owes loyalty to Manny now?
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It used to be that an old washed up great fighter would get destroyed and embarrassed by a rising star. Which paved the way for new cash cows.

    But neither Floyd nor Pac want to get crushed by any these young guns. So they don't fight guys like Crawford, Loma, Brook, Thurman, etc.

    Did you know that Keith Thurman was Mayweather's mandatory for like 3 years?
     
  10. Shoshana

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    Um, they didn't. They passed on Pacquiao-Vargas because it was announced way after Kovalev-Ward and November was the only time Pacquiao was able to fight.
     
  11. Jay1990

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    They still trippin off that May/Paq situation. They probably see no use for him after that debacle.
     
  12. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always get ppv fights at my house, and don't usually let people know. They just start texting calling me the week of the fight. Ended up with quite a few people over the house, and i hang with a mixed crowd . People still get up for Pacman, that dude is like the old drunken master. Been around forever, still ready to go to war if a man is capable of bringing it there, took Few losses around the road, and will give ANYBODY a hard night, pushing 40 and still ready. O.G.s **** with Pac.
     
  13. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Plenty of casual subscribers were duped too many times with the Pac Bradley trilogy only existing b/c Arum threw his one superstar to the wolves thinking he was gonna walk away soon.
    HBO didnt intend on potentially hurting the Kovalev Ward PPV by having to build up both fights.
     
  14. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is being duped having the 2 best active welterweights go at it. Sorry the 2 best guys at 147 weren't the ones you wanted them to be. Old BOB just happened to own the rights on those guys.
    Duped is when you have a guy who never beat anyone, who ever beat any one, that actually beat anyone, that won a belt by beating someone that actually beat someone for a belt and defended it against deserving opposition.

    And people who buy ppvs don't really care about an extra $60-$100 a month, that's not much money. Sure we shouldn't have to pay that, but we do, and it's the way it is until someone sets a better example. They ****ed up by not showing loyalty to Pac. But from the looks of it they could care less about boxing right now.
     
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  15. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ive bought several of Pacs PPVs, but Bob set him up in Bradley 1, and without that win over Pac the rematch and trilogy dont get made.
    HBO saw Vargas as a slower less aggressive Margarito and didnt want to risk Kovalev Ward sales.

    Not saying they did right....Kovalev and Wards fanbases are limited to the hardcores whereas both Vargas and Pac have built in fanbases.