Where was the old AJ?

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  1. GotchaHat

    GotchaHat Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    We still didn't see the AJ of old, even though he said he'll be aggressive before fight. He was still trying to outbox Usyk at times even though it didn't work in the 1st fight...
     
  2. AliHolmesMayweather

    AliHolmesMayweather New Member Full Member

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    Gone. Joshua isn't willing to die in the ring in order to win. Not to mention he was slipping back into old habits in their second bout. Even if the "old AJ" magically returned he still wouldn't have won. Joshua's cardio is trash, Usyk's ring IQ and cardio is elite.
     
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  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    How he fought was much better than trying to blast Usyk out like the British or below guys Joshua did that to.
     
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  4. GotchaHat

    GotchaHat Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    If he fought like vs. Wlad he would've stopped him
     
  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    He was almost stopped by an inactive and over 40 Wlad.

    He would have spent himself and gotten stopped by Usyk if he tried that.
     
  6. GotchaHat

    GotchaHat Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Lol Usyk has no power like Wlad to stop AJ
     
  7. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk is constantly moving, Joshua simply can't get to him. He's not good at cutting off the ring. It's one thing beating a slow 41 year old Wlad and 39 year old Povetkin another thing fighting someone who isn't a stationary target.
     
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  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Ruiz has no power like Wlad and did stop Joshua.

    Usyk has shown he can hurt Joshua, and has a great gas tank and Ring IQ. If Joshua was exhausted, he wouldn't recover and would get stopped.

    There's good reason that Joshua changed his style
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    He fought a perfect game plan. He kept Usyk moving, kept him very active, softened him with body shots and set him up for the huge right hand, but when the big shot landed, Usyk ate it up.

    The fight up to the 9th round went the way AJ wanted it to, the problem is his plan didn't work.
     
  10. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When people talk about the old AJ, they're talking about the guy who looked really good knocking out Raphael Zambano Love and Kevin Johnson.

    It's all well and good letting your hands go against journeymen but if he persisted with that style he'd probably have 5 or 6 losses on his record instead of 3.
     
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  11. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    exactly. these questions. asking why he didn't fight Oleksandr Usyk like he fight Gary Cornish !
     
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  12. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    It's the footwork, the angles, and the southpaw stance of usyk, the constant turning by usyk, and also the constant countering of an elite IQ fighter.

    The old AJ would be there against 95 percent of fighters but I'm convinced if these 2 fought 10 times, the fight would play out the same way every single time.
     
  13. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The "old AJ“ would've been more easily beaten by Usyk. Usyk doesn't suddenly become easier to hit just because someone is aggressive. See the Chisora fight. Let's not undersell AJ, rather focus on how good Usyk is.
     
  14. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    :lol: Remember that being sold as a 50/50 fight: 50/50 Cornish made it out of the first minute, maybe...
     
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  15. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Just re-watched that 'fight'. The opening line from the comms should have told us something: 'A joiner by trade, he's been given six weeks off by his company to prepare for this...' :lol:
     
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