Where will Usyk rank in a P4P ATG ranking if he beats Fury?

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Where would he rank in the ATG P4P ranking?

  1. Number 1

    8 vote(s)
    16.0%
  2. Top 5

    6 vote(s)
    12.0%
  3. Top 10

    9 vote(s)
    18.0%
  4. Top 15

    3 vote(s)
    6.0%
  5. Top 20

    5 vote(s)
    10.0%
  6. Top 25

    19 vote(s)
    38.0%
  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he does so and retires undefeated, top 5 for me.

    i kind of think that Robinson and Armstrong kind of have the permanent lock, but #3 not at all out of the question.
     
  2. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Voted #1 but thought you meant p4p rankings. I'm not sure atg, I don't think he surpasses PAC or Mayweather with a Fury win.
     
  3. Hi-Tek-Lomo

    Hi-Tek-Lomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would've loved to see Usyk fight Holyfield at CW.
     
  4. Aizen

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    Do people use this criteria when ranking boxers? If you were to rank a boxers amateur record as well as their pro record, surely people like Loma and Rigondeaux would be ranked pretty highly in an all time list. Just on their amateur record alone.
     
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  5. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Top 2 Cruiserweight - Tie between him and Holyfield.

    Top 15 Heavyweight.

    LOL at people voting top 5.
     
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  6. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Rigo and Loma in their prime would be competetive with any boxer their size in history.
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No Lol. Very few have unified two divisions, one of them the unlimited heavyweight division, and retired undefeated....vanishingly few in the four-belt era. In fact, none at all.

    You can disagree, but no Lol to it. It is a legit intellectual position.
     
  8. Takeover

    Takeover New Member Full Member

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    Wouldn't crack top 30
     
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  9. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Actually just realised this is P4P atg not HW.

    But still though you have to look at calibre of opponent. Is AJ and past it Fury really enough to warrant p4p ATG top 5?
     
  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes. They are two of the best super-heavies to ever do it, and he is overcoming massive weight differences to do it.
     
  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All right, back to reality time. Usyk was 16-0 as a cruiser with some nice wins. He's All of 4-0 at heavyweight with wins over
    Chazz Witherspoon 7 , ugh!
    Chisora UD close
    Joshua 2 UD'S and those wins aren't looking all that great now.
    20-0 with 13 knockouts lands him in the top 30 of all time?
    Not even close
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He wouldn't be top 5 people come on..... Ezzard Charles ? Muhammad Ali ? Willie Pep ? Henry Armstrong ? Harry Greb ? Roberto Duran ? Sam Langford ?

    I wouldn't even put Usyk above the likes of RJJ, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Whitaker, who beat alot more quality opposition.
     
  13. McGrain

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    Do people think he's behind of or in front of Holyfield?
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Behind definitely I think Usyk has a slightly better Cruiserweight resume, but at Heavyweight it's no contest.

    Holyfield has wins over Holmes, Foreman, Bowe, Tyson x2, Moorer, Mercer, Dokes.
     
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  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not top 25 - add that option
     
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