Where Would Bowe Have Ended Up, Fighting Prime Liston?

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  2. Liston

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    On the floor. Liston TKO8.
     
    JohnThomas1, Jun 1, 2025 at 1:39 PM
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    In the morgue if he had come in like he did against Golota.
     
    janitor, Jun 1, 2025 at 1:44 PM
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Only Dino can make a Liston-Bowe thread about Wlad.
     
    swagdelfadeel, Jun 1, 2025 at 2:06 PM
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    A fully motivated, focused, in shaped Bowe gives Sonny the fight of his life and could even pull a win.

    But getting the very best version of Bowe into the ring is akin to catching an unicorn.

    Sonny is the reliable option here.
     
    Kid Bacon, Jun 1, 2025 at 3:02 PM
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Bowe's weaknesses abound. He was a petulant head case with a fragile ego who couldn't focus on a game plan, would enter any firefight tow which he was invited and often resorted to fouls which partial refs overlooked. He abandoned his physical advantages to recklessly infight where his defense was as porous as a colander. And he just didn't punch that hard for a guy who would wind up and overcommit to the right hand. One of the more overrated heavies of his generation.
     
    Seamus, Jun 1, 2025 at 3:24 PM
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    I mean that is fair but Liston was also still the guy who couldn’t really fight inside overly well and was pretty hittable himself, in the only fight against a good fighter his own size he won he was self admittedly almost KO’d by Williams.
     
    Journeyman92, Jun 1, 2025 at 5:05 PM
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    On his ass
     
    PRW94, Jun 1, 2025 at 5:41 PM
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    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Liston actually holds the greater reach here and Bowe was very good at negating the potential advantages of his greater height.

    Liston has Riddick covered at range and in close. Riddick can try to box or bang away up close and personal but Sonny holds all the cards in all depts.
     
    Pugguy, Jun 1, 2025 at 5:59 PM
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    :lol: Very good.
     
    Pugguy, Jun 1, 2025 at 6:00 PM
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    People way overrate Liston he was never very good only won because he was bigger then his opponents and hit hard for his size. Bowe eats him up and knocks him out without too much issues.
     
    themaster458, Jun 1, 2025 at 6:09 PM
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  11. Seamus

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    He wasn't though. Same weight as Nino Valdes, same as Cleveland Williams, Ernie Cab, Wayne Bethea, 7 pounds more than Ernie Cab... I mean, dude was 210-215 in prime. That's not exactly a weight bully. He did have that crazy reach which would be crazy in any era. Your point is not a point.
     
    Seamus, Jun 1, 2025 at 6:25 PM
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    And most of his opponents were less then 200 so.......
     
    themaster458, Jun 1, 2025 at 7:08 PM
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  13. Seamus

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    Uh, Riddick made his name on a guy who was 205.
     
    Seamus, Jun 1, 2025 at 7:46 PM
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    And better then anyone Liston beat. Your point?
     
    themaster458, Jun 1, 2025 at 7:49 PM
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    Was he really? Or just a good match-up for Bowe to be the weight bully? Patterson was pretty damn good hisself btw.
     
    Seamus, Jun 1, 2025 at 7:50 PM
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