Where would these fighters be ranked at 160 if they were in their primes now?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    This is the top 10 160 fighters according to the ring mag sometime in 1990, where would these fighters be ranked today if they were actively fighting in today`s game at the same ages they were when this list was published by te ring? I pasted this list because someone said American fighters were the only top tier fighters at 160 during that period and I disagree.
    1. Michael Nunn
    2. Sumbu Kalambay
    3. Mike McCallum
    4. Roberto Duran
    5. Iran Barkley
    6. Michael Watson
    7. Herol Graham
    8. Steve Collins
    9. Nigel Benn
    10. Dennis Milton
     
  2. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    The nostalgia brigade won't like this but I'd take Canelo in top spot followed by Nunn and a GGG who is now on the slide.

    - Nunn at this point in time was an exceptional fighter and a year later would be stopped late by Toney.
    - McCallum another brilliant fighter but I'm taking those 3 names ahead of him
    - Duran was getting on in age
    - Barkley I never really rated all that highly. From 89-90 he got beat in every big fight (Benn, Nunn and Duran)
    - Michael Watson is a tragedy because he had it all and we never got to see the very best of him.
    - Herol Graham for all his talent and boxing ability always fell short on the big occasion. In many people's eyes the best British fighter to never win a world title.
    - Nigel Benn was starting to come to fruition by this point and he had the power to put any Middleweight past or present to sleep.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I think McCallum could have taken Benn`s power very well because he took Jackson`s shot and even though he was rocked went on to stop Jackson in that fight at 154.
     
  4. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The body snatcher is very underrated historically. He has wins over 6 of the guys on that list and the only clean loss he had before LHW was to Kalambay when he made his first attempt to jump from LMW to MW. Other than that his two fights with James Toney were as controversial as Canelo vs GGG 1 & 2.

    The thought of putting GGG or even Canelo above him is baffling even at LMW he beat champions such as Jackson, Mccrory, and Donald Curry. There is a reason the BIG 4(or 5 if you consider Benitez) all fought around him despite campaigning in those weight classes.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    For me, the only names on the current list which would make the top ten then, are: Charlo, Derevyanchenko, Andrade and GGG. 6-4 isn't bad going considering that right now we have a middle-aged man atop the divisions and the early 90s is one of the stacked middleweight divisions ever.

    I'd absolutely rate Nunn, Kalambay and McCallum above current GGG, and the other three. TBH, I'd rate all three above GGG in all-time list and pick Kalambay and McCallum to beat any GGG, but that's not really the question. The four I'd take off the 90s list are: Barkley, Duran, Milton and a young Benn. With Graham, Collins and Watson being the three to join the aforementioned seven.

    My list would end up as:

    #10. Demetrius Andrade*
    #09. Steve Collins
    #08. Sergey Derevyanchenko
    #07. Gennady Golovkin
    #06. Herol Graham
    #05. Jermall Charlo
    #04. Michael Watson
    #03. Mike McCallum
    #02. Sumbu Kalambay
    #01. Michael Nunn

    *I don't like this placement. I think Barkley beats him, but I find it hard to rate Barkley so high when his record around this time is pretty poor.

    Also, this is assuming that major events like Kalambay vs Nunn, Watson vs McCallum, Charlo vs Derevyanchenko, etc; aren't knocking the losers of the those fights off the lists all together. This is just my head-to-head rating of thode fighters at these particular times.
     
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