Where would Vitlai Klitschko’s comeback rate if he defeats Sam Peter?

This is really a no win situation for Peter. If he beats Vitali, then he's beaten up on an old fighter coming out of retirment. If he loses to him, then he's lost to a has been. Frankly, I'm surprised that Peter hasn't tried to go after someone else. There is no legacy for him to gain in this fight, no matter the outcome.

 

Oh, and for another point of reference here, even if George Foreman came out of retirement right now and beat Peter, it wouldn't wildly enhance his all-time standing in my book. He'd just become somewhat more secure in the spot he currently holds. Peter just plain isn't all that good, and under no plausible circumstances would a win over him turn into an all-time great legacy-defining fight.

 

Tyson in 2002 was better than Peter is or ever will be. Tyson was in better shape in 2002 than Peter has ever been, is more skillful, faster, hits harder has a better defense. What does Peter do better? How would 2002 Tyson do against Peter? Tyson KO early-mid rounds.

Who has Peter beaten that a 2002 Tyson wouldnt beat?

 

I think a 2002 Tyson was on a pretty similar level to Peter right now. The Williams and McBride fights aren't a fair reference here, as they were over two years after the Lewis fight. When he fought Lewis, Tyson was still a pretty legitimate contender, having beaten Savarese, Golota and Nielsen within the last couple years, all in dominant fashion. As he was when he fought Lewis, Tyson was probably still a legitimately harder hitter than Peter, had a better chin, and, at least in terms of physique, looked to be in much better shape. However, it is true that at this stage Tyson just about burned out after the first three rounds, while Peter is capable of fighting successfully into the later rounds when he paces himself. Very good chance of an early knockout by Tyson, but if not, Peter probably outlasts him.

 

A lot of debate about a fight that might not even happen.

Wlad might decide on a tune up fight (I personaly hope so)

Wlad might simply not get past training camp (If he cant get back into his previous form I personaly hope he dosnt try)

 

Don,t you think Vitaly should meet someone first before getting a shot at the "title"?Ali came back after 3 1/2 years and took on Jerry Quarry.How does Vitaly warrant a title shot ? Shouldnt he earn one?Even a match with that big ox Valuev would tell us something,,and if he should be the first to stop the giant it would hype him all the more.

 

Tyson didnt lose to Williams until 2004 after being out for 2 years and he probably could have beat Williams and McBride if he had any heart left in him, he wasnt up for club fights. He was up for Lewis though

You forget to mention Tyson after Lewis beat Ettiene in 30seconds who beat Brewster who beat Wlad

Tyson tore his knee anyway against Williams, thats a perfect excuse for a TKO if your a Vitali fan and not a hypocrite :yep

Anyway in 2002 Tyson would only need 3rounds to KO Peter Peter is too open and that means hes getting ko'd against Tyson's offense. In the 3 years prior to facing Lewis Tyson beat Golota, Nielson and Botha which is as good as Peter's last 3 and Tyson looked far superior despite not being in his prime

If you want to look at what fighters did after Vitali fought them, how about Danny Williams losing in 1round to Audley Harrison, or Corrie Sanders losing in 1round 3fights later, or fat Kirk Johnson losing by TKO 3fights later after facing Vitali. :yep

 

I think that Vitally deserves a title shot because he did not loose the belt in the ring.

I feel that he would be verry ill advised to fight Peter without a tune up fight however.

His previous plan of fighting McCline first was about right.

 

Actually, yes. I think there's a fair chance we're jumping the gun in assuming Vitali is capable of coming out of a near four-year absence from the ring at 37 years old and performing like he once did.

 

1. Tyson ko'd Golota whos better than anyone Peter has faced. It was changed to a NC due to a marijuna positive, hardly a performance enhancer

2. Stationary targets? Perfect prep for Fat Boy peter. Anyway Botha was a jab and move merchant you fool, not a stationary object at all

3. Tyson was getting outboxed after having 3years out and been rusty as hell, by former belt holder Botha until leveling Botha with 1punch power Peter can only dream of. He was way overweight against Neilson but still looked better than fatboy has ever looked.

Anyway Tyson trained his ass off Lewis and was at his best since Golota/Holyfield

4. Golotas better than anyone Peters beat. Botha is as good as a shot overweight Toney (who beat Peter in the first fight minus a robbery)

 

I'm a huge fan of both Peter and Tyson, I feel Golota, Nelisen, and Botha, are very comparable to Maskaev, Toney, and Mccline, though I would give Peter the edge in competition, but you must remember, Tyson knocked out all 3 oppenents, Peter only knocked out one, and had a hard time beating both Toney and Mccline.

As far as the Nielson fight, Tyson showed great power and decent technique in 01 when they fought, Tyson won every round leading up to the knockout in the 7th or 8th, Nielson had a strong chin and Tyson was the first to put him down, let alone knock him out, something that never happend in over 60 fights he fought, and I believe he only had one loss coming into that fight.