Where would Vitlai Klitschko’s comeback rate if he defeats Sam Peter?

I think it would be a very good win, depending on how he wins but after 4 years off and no tune up, if he beats Peter it will be remembered and then we will see what he does from there. Crazy no tune up and going 12 but Vitali has been at this quite a while and I guess he does not want to chance injury...but if he beats Peter it will be a large Leap

 

I stopped reading here. Ruiz has lost to TWO former Middleweights one that has a Glass Jaw and the other that is a fat slob and addicted to steroids. Ruiz had to fake low blows to beat Kirk Johnson. The same Kirk Johnson that was KOed in 2 by Klitschko.

Vitali was Roy's mandatory for his paper WBA belt. Why did Roy drop the belt and Vitali fight the linear and legitimate Heavyweight Champion instead in Lennox Lewis?

 

Tyson was beating on Williams early till he injured his knee and was taken out from there, I remember the third round was a close one and round where Tyson was showing signs of fatigue but still did very good there. The first two rounds were clearly his till he was taken out in the 4th.

His fight with McBride was a joke and Tyson barely did anything worth mentioning in that fight, the man was BEYOND shot and was good enough for a round or two at best then he was pretty much ready to be taken out by anyone. It's the fact that McBride sucks SO much that he didn't fire away early, he would throw like two or three extremely pathetic shots and run out of gas despite Tyson being wide open to be taken out as early as the second round.

About Tyson fading against anyone that stood up to him, this topic was discussed NUMEROUS times on ESB and almost every single discussion regarding Tyson and is complete BULL****. If you're going to judge Tyson fading when he was beyond shot then you need to check him out years before that, so many fans here only judge Tyson's style based on him coming out of prison. Even Tyson after his fight with McBride openly admitted that he won fights based on one thing and that's intimidating his opponents AFTER he came out of prison simply because, as it was EXTREMELY clear, he was NOTHING compared to what he once was and only relied on power, if that failed he was basically right there to be picked apart. Let's go back to when Tyson was in his prime, he fought Bruno who stood up to him and wobbled him in the very first round of their first fight, Tyson never faded or was discouraged there, was he?. Now let's check out BOTH of his fights with Ruddock where he was hurt in both fights, stunned and backed off numerous times, even the first fight was SO dangerous that Richard Steele had to do something to end it way before it was supposed to end, did Tyson fade in both fights?, the answer is no. Then he fights Biggs, who ALSO was winning early and showing a certain style that he MIGHT be able to trouble Tyson with early. Same happened against Carl Williams, who troubled Tyson in the first round and was doing excellent in the 2nd till he was caught, his chin basically failed him in this one and Tyson's serious power. Holmes wasn't doing horrible either, same goes to Tubbs in the first round. How about his fights with Bonecrusher Smith, Tucker and Green?, didn't ALL those three stand up to him and keep fighting despite being caught over and over?, according to your logic if he stand up to him he would immediately fade, that wasn't the case there, was it?. Ribalta was also fighting his ass off and stood up to Tyson as much as he could, I would expect Tyson to fade as early as the fourth round if he had issues with people standing up to him, again according to your logic.

This topic was discussed many times and as a big-time Tyson fan I'll be man enough to admit it's true IF it was, but since the proof is out there that he wasn't then I'm sorry but I can't agree with that no matter how many times I discuss it.

 

MY NIGGE R:good

 

Roy's case was complicated. He was in a situation where if he fought anyone else at Heavyweight he will be called a "chicken" for not fighting Tarver and if he fought Tarver then he would be considered a "chicken" for not fighting Lewis, as obvious here.

Lewis wasn't completely free either, he had his own stuff going on with the Vitali fight and the fiasco that came after it, a possible rematch with Tyson and retirement. Not saying Lewis never wanted it but he wasn't completely free either, as wasn't Roy so this topic shouldn't even be considered a "topic".

 

The warnings weren't as bull**** as you think they were, the amount of holding going on there was way too much and was obviously making things far more difficult for Tyson than they already were. I showed that fight to even GIRLS that complained about the amount of holding going on there and those girls know jack**** about boxing too.

Not that this would have changed anything, just making it clear that those warnings weren't completely bull****.

 

Had Roy stuck around and beat some of the smaller Heavyweights and unified the IBF and WBA then he *could* have beat Brewster at the time by Boxing he would have gone down as one of the ATG's.

But what did he do? Dropped the paper WBA belt went down to Light Heavyweight and got brutally knocked out twice.

 

Come on man, you know that's a load of crap and just using it to heat things up. :yep

He wouldn't fight the man(Lewis) who completely sliced Rahman to pieces and the best Heavyweight around on short notice if he feared anyone in the division.

 

Whoever voted '10' is a delusional, ignorant nuthugger I'm afraid.

The vote bracket says that his potential comeback would be unprecedented.

Any of you guys hear of George Foreman? Coming back fully 10 years older, to KO a great fighter in Moorer for a unified championship.

I think the fact Vitali will start favourite here says a lot. Comeback's are impressive when they are underdog stories.

The more I think about this the less impressive it is. Vit will be coming back at a respectable age, to fight a limited plodder, to win a paper title. That's all ot comes down to, it is not anything to get dramatic about.

 

Wrong, he went to Light Heavyweight in a fight everyone wanted to see more than anything. Already explained the situation surrounding Lewis(the only fighter worth mentioning in the division at that point), who else was there?

Brewster?, what has he done at that point?, Vitali was unproved as well and called "Quitali" based on his loss to Byrd, Wladimir lost brutally against Sanders. No one worth mentioning was there and Tarver's trash talk and his history with Roy got the media to eat it up easily and quickly only to make it the best fight for Roy to take. No, he didn't really get KO'd twice, he beat Tarver the first time and because it was close and everyone begged for a rematch a second fight happened and Tarver PROVED that he was a legitimate opponent, so you're saying he's scared of a certain fighter only to fight another who proved to be extremely dangerous?, does that make sense?

Don't forget that Roy also planned to fight Mike Tyson after his fight with Tarver and that fight could have happened, if he's scared shitless he wouldn't consider such fights. Roy fears no one and all this talk about him ducking fighters is pure bull**** with absolutely ZERO facts to back them up.

 

Roy was all talk. He was going to fight Douglas, Holyfield, Tyson, Sanders, Klitschko etc.

He knew he had a Glass Jaw and took the path of least resistance his whole career fighting hand picked bums on HBO PPV.

Roy was a media creation by HBO then when he got KOed HBO dropped him like a hot potato. Compared to real P4P ATG's Roy's resume is a god damn joke.

 

Ruiz lost on points to two former middleweights yes. Big brave VITLAY fought a former middleweight and quit because he couldn't take the pain. Care to explain that? This is the same ex middleweight that Lewis refused to fight on GP because it would have been a joke fight by the way, in case your memory doesn't serve you well.

 

Toney has weighed less in his last 2 bouts, and has been even slimmer in interviews following his last bout. You know this already, but are on a mission of deception...

Steroids are not known to be addictive...and even if they were you know that James had no problem with his test sample from his last fight...please stop spamming the board with lies...you already have been made aware of the applicable information.

 

Please tell me about these bums and who do you think was more deserving. As I said you're only typing away stuff with no proof, more like "I hate him, he's trash" but never explain why he's trash. Please explain to me who he ducked please.

The heavyweight case was already explained to you and him not making more fights there is DAMN OBVIOUS, now tell me about the bums he fought in his prime and who do you think was better?

 

I say its about a nine on that scale.

Peter is not overly impressive, himself................But, as has been said, most see Sammy as number two in the world, so beating him, with all that Vitali has to deal with, would be one of the more impressive accompishments in many years of heavyweight boxing.