Where would Wilder rank amongst Anthony Joshua's best wins

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The Klitschko that AJ beat hadn't won a fight in two years and had been outboxed pretty firmly by Tyson Fury. Even in that win, two years earlier, 2015, he didn't look great against Jennings, had clearly lost a bit.

    Wilder is better than him, yeah, and I'd pick Wilder to beat 2017 Wladimir, i'm not relaxed about it, could definitely be wrong, Wladimir was a great fighter, but Wilder as AJ's best ever scalp would be my answer.
     
  2. DoubleG95Fanatic

    DoubleG95Fanatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's because he hadn't fought since the Fury loss...he went straight onto another big fight. Could've easily beaten a few bums on the way (wouldn't have made it any more of an achievement on AJ's part). You could also say Wlad only lost once in 13 years. Had Wilder not KO'd Helenius and fought AJ off the back of the 2 Fury losses, would you be saying the same about Wilder not having won a fight in 3 years?
     
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  3. McGrain

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    Yeah, I would and I actually do so far as Wilder's ranking is concerned (because he hasn't beaten a ranked guy in years).

    You think that it's Wlad and that's fine; I think that Wlad's age, inactivity and the fact that he hadn't won a meaningful fight in years means it'd be Wilder.
     
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  4. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    2nd. But I don't think he would have beaten Wilder at any point in time.
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wladimir is a bigger name and obviously way more accomplished but timing is everything. Wladimir was done at that point and was coming off a loss and a huge lay off while being 40 years old.

    Wilder is pretty much still in his prime and i don't think many people would favour Joshua over Wilder atm, so if Joshua were to beat a monster puncher like Wilder especially at this stage in his career it would be best achievement of his career IMO.
     
  6. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Top 3 alongside Wlad and Povetkin, Joshua on the other hand would be Wilder's best win by miles.
     
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  7. 11player

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    I'd say:
    1) Klitschko
    2) Povetkin
    3) Ruiz / Parker / Wilder / Whyte , all about the sane level, dificult to rank
     
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  8. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Wilder that he DUCKED like the plague? #1
    2023 Wilder? #1
     
  9. MrPook

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    In his dreams night night
     
  10. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    2nd. Parker was by far his best win.

    Wlad really wasn't a good win, a 2+ year retired champion coming off of a loss where they were dominated is not that great of a win. Povetkin was shopworn. Ruiz was someone he should've beaten easily, the only appeal was because he lost the first fight.
     
  11. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder is past his best too
     
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  12. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    It's easier to look at AJs resume and assume who'd Wilder would spark out.
    Doing so puts Wilder at minimum no 2, maybe even AJs best win at this point in both guys career.

    The Klit that AJ struggled with would struggle with Wilder too, difficult to say who'd come out on top of that one. Klit would win all the rounds but wouldn't get up if the bomb detonated IMO.
     
  13. MAD_PIGE0N

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    A bit hard to tell because AJ was close to losing against Wlad, but Wlad was a bit old already, even well-preserved. Povetkin, on the other hand, was visibly in some early stage of decline and even if he wasn't I see him losing to Wilder (who however ran away full speed from facing him). But both were top-level fighters, so I'd say Wilder would be his 3rd best victory if the fight is now. If at some later stage where Wilder has finally faced few top opponents and has won against, could go to 2nd, but that seems unlikely.
     
  14. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder beating wlad is the biggest load of nonsense I've seen all day. Here's the question... why didn't he fight him then lol
     
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  15. McGrain

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    Why didn't Wilder fight Wladimir?

    Well he didn't really have the chance I don't think. Wladimir won his last fight in 2015, April. Wilder had had his belt around 3 months at that point. Wladimir's next fight was Fury, which he lost, and then he didn't do anything until AJ tempted him out of retirement with a huge payday. Wilder never had the power to make a fight with Wladimir at any time, really. Why didn't Wladimir chose Wilder for his April 2015 American match is a better question and I think the answer is that there wasn't really time to get it in print even if either of them wanted it which I suspect neither of them did.
     
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