Where Would You Like To See GGG v Canelo?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The4thJudge, May 9, 2017.


Where do you want to see GGG fight Canelo?

  1. Madison Square Garden, New York, USA

    22.4%
  2. MGM Grand, Las Vegas, USA

    16.4%
  3. Cowboys Stadium (AT&T), Arlington, USA

    40.3%
  4. Wembley Stadium, London, England

    11.9%
  5. Estadio Azteca, Mexico City, Mexico

    9.0%
  1. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,404
    14,596
    Feb 28, 2016
    Yes, it would be a pro-GGG or neutral crowd in London I think. Golovkin is quite well-liked here, generally gets good press in the newspapers while I never see much about Canelo.
     
    Beouche likes this.
  2. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

    35,271
    38,046
    Aug 28, 2012
    Why drain it?
     
  3. The4thJudge

    The4thJudge Boxing Blogger Full Member

    43
    20
    May 9, 2017
    Yea I'm worried about GGG being able to win a decision in Texas or Nevada. He certainly is capable of getting Canelo out of there early and I think he's going to have to.
     
    Beouche likes this.
  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

    86,106
    4,096
    Jul 19, 2004
    I think UK would be good, Texas is not a fair place to fight, you have a crooked boxing commission, judges and referee. Lawrence Cole is the worst ref in boxing............
     
  5. The4thJudge

    The4thJudge Boxing Blogger Full Member

    43
    20
    May 9, 2017
    Yea mate I'm worried if this thing goes the distance if GGG can win the decision. Hell even one blind judge has Canelo v Mayweather as a draw!
     
  6. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    22,103
    13,351
    Dec 2, 2012

    That's kind of odd since he has beaten at least 3 boxers from the United Kingdom.
     
    KiwiMan likes this.
  7. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,404
    14,596
    Feb 28, 2016
    Indeed he has. But SkySports dominate the UK boxing scene and Golovkin-Brook was huge here. Canelo-Khan was not hosted in the UK by comparison, Canelo has never fought in the UK.

    US/Mexico fights are 3-5am in the UK, only the hardcore's are watching, and they obviously already know about Canelo.
     
    ElCyclon likes this.
  8. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

    28,390
    39,782
    Jan 7, 2014
  9. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,714
    3,455
    Jan 6, 2007
  10. The4thJudge

    The4thJudge Boxing Blogger Full Member

    43
    20
    May 9, 2017
    I'm lucky in that respect US/Mexico fights are on around 11am on a Sunday here in Australia
     
    KiwiMan likes this.
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    23,156
    9,882
    Aug 1, 2012
    Ross and Moretti had identical scorecards besides the 1st and the 8th round. (Ross gave the 1st and 8th rounds to Canelo, Moretti gave the 1st and the 8th rounds to Floyd)

    Both Ross and Moretti agreed that Canelo won rounds 3, 9, 11 and 12.

    The other judge, Craig Metcalfe, who had Floyd winning 9 rounds to 3, agreed with Ross and Moretti about Canelo winning round 12, but had Canelo winning round 2 and round 10, which both were rounds that Ross and Moretti gave to Floyd. So the judge that scored it widest to Floyd scored as many rounds on his own to Canelo as CJ Ross did.

    But more importantly, and the thing to keep in mind, is that CJ Ross's card and Moretti's card were much more similar to each other than Metcalfe's card was to Moretti's card. Ross and Moretti had 10 rounds scored identically, while Metcalfe and Moretti only had 7 rounds scored identically.

    So I don’t know how you can say Ross was the blind one when her scorecard was so similar to Moretti’s card, while the guy who scored it 9 rounds to 3 for Floyd had a completely different card to the other two judges in comparison.
     
  12. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

    23,723
    4,043
    Oct 13, 2010
    Yeah GGG is loved over here. Always thought you were from NZ kiwiman
     
    KiwiMan likes this.
  13. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,404
    14,596
    Feb 28, 2016
    Moved from NZ to the UK 8 months ago
     
    Beouche likes this.
  14. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

    23,723
    4,043
    Oct 13, 2010
    How you finding it? Most people i know here would love to go the other way, and any that have love it
     
    Robney and KiwiMan like this.
  15. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

    11,844
    15,621
    Nov 9, 2015

    All very interesting but in the end one judge gave it to Floyd by four rounds and another by six. These are not inconsiderable margins. Moretti and Metcalfe were within a one-round swing of each others score, whereas with Ross it's a two-round swing to the judge closest to her interpretation. That empirically places her score more out of kilter with her colleagues' assessments than both of the other two with one anothers. And they both saw a Floyd win, whereas she witnessed a draw which is another aspect in which she was out of kilter. So, in two key areas she stands alone from her colleagues.

    So here's a simple question: in terms of a fight result which is more important, a tally of rounds scored the same by various judges or the final score they all gave the fight in its entirety? Which is key?
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2017
    drenlou, KiwiMan and Pimp C like this.