Where Would You Like To See GGG v Canelo?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The4thJudge, May 9, 2017.


Where do you want to see GGG fight Canelo?

  1. Madison Square Garden, New York, USA

    22.4%
  2. MGM Grand, Las Vegas, USA

    16.4%
  3. Cowboys Stadium (AT&T), Arlington, USA

    40.3%
  4. Wembley Stadium, London, England

    11.9%
  5. Estadio Azteca, Mexico City, Mexico

    9.0%
  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Cowboy Stadium my second choice would be Estadio Azteca.
     
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  2. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In general, I also recommend going the other way if you can ... :) However, I'm in the UK for study and enjoying it very much.
     
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  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Glad youre enjoying it mate. Once you get used to the miserable weather it's not too bad

    To bring it back to boxing, one thing it really sucks for is having to stay up til 4 or even 5 for the big fights. Really throws your time clock out the window for a few days

    On the other hand, the live atmosphere for fights like Hatton Tszyu, Calzaghe Lacy/Kessler, Froch Bute was as passionate and frenzied as you'll find anywhere

    Enjoy :)
     
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  4. The4thJudge

    The4thJudge Boxing Blogger Full Member

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    I don't care how similar anyone's cards were. There is no excuse for judging that fight as a draw, you can try justify it anyway you like but Canelo was schooled by Floyd and you are blind and or biased if you score it a draw. End of.
     
  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kazakhstan lol
    No seriously it's the venue per say I'm bothered about more the need for fair judging,nobody except maybe Canelo wants to see another farce like the one where they gave Canelo a draw with Mayweathe,inept judging is one thing but that's just plain corrupt.
     
  6. The4thJudge

    The4thJudge Boxing Blogger Full Member

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    Haha read the comment above yours. I completely agree with you mate.
     
  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol just brought this up myself without reading this,home fighter perhaps gets a round or two from nowhere and that sucks but that Mayweather thing is a paid judge and nothing would convince me otherwise.
    I know some bring up Trout and Lara but I actually agreed with those.
     
  8. The4thJudge

    The4thJudge Boxing Blogger Full Member

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    Yea I actually think there is a good case that Lara beat Canelo however I am not unhappy about him losing the fight either. It was one of those bouts where some rounds could have gone either way.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There were a lot of rounds in Floyd vs Canelo that could have went either way. The general consensus seems to be that Canelo did better vs Lara than he did vs Floyd, but if you give enough of the close rounds to Canelo you get a draw vs Floyd or a win vs Lara. If you give Floyd and Lara all the close rounds, you get a Floyd comfortable win or a Lara close win.

    A lot of this has to do with who was expected to win and who wasn't. Floyd was expected to beat Canelo, but Canelo vs Lara was closer to a 50/50 fight. A lot of people went into the Floyd vs Canelo fight looking for Canelo to do something spectacular or they will just automatically give rounds to Floyd. Canelo didn't do anything really spectacular in any of those rounds so naturally you and others see it as a wide Floyd victory. However, I challenge you to rewatch the fight and go into it with an open mind and I bet you can find 6 or 7 rounds that were close enough where you could score it to Canelo. Not that you would score that many to Canelo, but rounds where you come out of it and say "that was a close round".

    To make a judgement on CJ Ross and how "blind" she was scoring it, specifically we should look at rounds 1 and 8 which were the rounds that CJ Ross scored to Canelo that the other two judges gave to Floyd.
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well in the overall final scoring of the fight yes, but in terms of the actual rounds scored for each fighter, Metcalfe’s card was more out of kilter with Moretti’s and Ross’s cards than Ross’s was. So like I said, if we really want to judge Ross, we need to take a look at round 1 and 8 to see how close those rounds were. Round 1 was close from what I remember, if I recall, the first 3 rounds we’re close, then Floyd started taking over the fight in the middle rounds, with Canelo making the rounds closer again in rounds 8-12. This is just from memory so I’ll have to go back through.

    I think we’re going to have to re watch and re score this fight because this same argument keeps being brought up over and over again that a draw in Floyd vs Canelo was unreasonable and I’m not convinced of that, but I’ll have to go back through and rewatch the fight. It’s not like when I watched the fight I thought Canelo was going to win a decision or anything, I just thought that it was a close fight with many close rounds but that Floyd was going to edge it, that Canelo didn’t really do enough to win rounds clearly, etc. I mean we’ve seen many fights turn out to be a draw when we thought somebody else win easily.

    For example, Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez was a Majority Draw, and pretty much everybody except for die hard JCC fans thought Sweet Pea won easily. I mean that was probably less of a draw than Canelo vs Floyd was. The point is you don’t have to agree with the draw to still see how a judge could have scored it a draw. I mean with Floyd vs Canelo in your mind the right guy still won, but it’s highly unusual for a draw to cause someone to resign from boxing lol. So given what happened to CJ Ross I think we definitely owe it to ourselves to verify whether all that negativity towards her was justified, specifically by going back and looking at rounds 1 and 8.

    The problem I see when this is being discussed is everyone pretty much is just making blatant statements about the final score of a draw being ridiculous without actually going back and going through it round by round and seeing how many close rounds there were. I mean people literally are just going from memory, thinking that Canelo fought the wrong gameplan or something. In reality, it wasn’t an easy fight for Floyd.

    You have to go round by round and determine whether the rounds that someone scored for a fighter on their own were close enough to be reasonable or not. I mean I doubt many people even knew that Ross and Moretti had identical cards besides rounds 1 and 8.

    Just looking at the final score and judging based on that and your memory from 4 years ago could be highly inaccurate. I mean this is one of those fights where you may have to turn the commentary off and watch it that way.
     
  11. SOUTHERMOST

    SOUTHERMOST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Neutral place New York, Canelo will never lose a decision on the West Coast he already got the cards line up for him Oscar promoting and calling the shoots, GGG needs a knock out to win.
     
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  12. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That didn't help Juan Diaz when he fought nate Campbell
     
  13. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Drenlou's moms house.
     
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  14. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That would be quite the attendance! Lol
     
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  15. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
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