Where Would You Place Ingemar Johansson H2H

While I'm inclined to agree, I will say that Machen overlooked Ingo. No one knew much about Ingo at that point in his career, Machen was really the first contender that tested him.
In a rematch in which Machen would surely be ready, I'd favor Eddie. He wouldn't get caught again.

Ingo has a monster right hand though, easily an ATG punch. Maybe the best right hand puncher in HW history, he's that good with it. I think a top 30 ranking of Ingo can be justified, and Machen isn't far behind, if he is at all.

 

I think he could upset a lot of people at first because of his powerful right hand and his ability to set it up.

As said previously, Machen and Patterson may have been better boxers but Johansson brutally disposed of them in first round and third round knockouts. Patterson of course came back to avenge the loss, but he was nearly out again in the first round of their third fight.

 

ingo got all out of his career what he could. overall an average champ except for that awesome right hand

 

It's not like I'm giving Eddie credit for beating Ingo. He never did it obviously, I'm just pointing out the circumstances surrounding the fight, I just don't see a defensive master like Machen falling for Ingo's right more than once.
Ingo was a master at the right hand though and certainly has a very good shot to repeat it, but I'd bet on Machen in a rematch. Once again, just throwing stuff out there, the fact is that Ingo knocked him out and that's what counts more than anything else.

Ingo's win over Machen puts him a little over Eddie. But Machen is in the same league, that's what I'm saying.

 

I don't think Johansson necessarily rates too well in a H2H sense, especially if you're talking about trilogies or out of 10 fights. He didn't have too many tools aside from his right hand when it was figured out. Johansson however is a threat to anybody in a single fight.

Machen and Patterson shouldn't have been unaware of the right hand because Johansson had been knocking out everybody in the European scene.

Johansson making short work of Hein Ten Hoff who had once gone the distance with Jersey Joe Walcott:

http://svtplay.se/v/1371225/oppet_arkiv/ingo_knockar_hein_ten_hoff_1955

 

Ingo have one hell of a "bingo"..that right hand of his, even if he was a one trick pony, he had that great equalizer, as McGrain said, and was special for it. It was his tricky deployment of that punch..the veiling of it by the long, static, monotonous periods of jabbing and providing suspense until he unleashed it suddenly that intrigued me. He was very accurate with it more times than not, and that's what made him so dangerous in a way similar to the way Max Schmeling would keep his right cocked and would time it very very well, and at the right time. Max Baer's right was bigger and badder than Ingo's or Schmeling's, but he loaded up on it too much usually, and used it more freely, without the "mystery" of the other two, so it was more predictable and maybe easier to defend against. I think Ingo would have a fair chance against Burns, Willard, Carnera, Braddock, but would be out of his league against most of the other former champs, who would either be too slick to get caught, or those who would have reached Ingo's cin first and preempted Ingo's "toonder and lightning" with artillery of their own. I think he could have possibly rattled a slow starting Joe Frazier like Manual Ramos did in '68 before Joe clobbered him, and probably would have put Leon Spinks to sleep or would have dribbled him off the canvas like Coetzee did.

 

Spoiler.

A punchers chance is usualy like a snowballs change in hell against a fighter with a good chin but Johansen is the exception.