Where would you rank Quarry if he'd beaten Foreman for the title?

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  1. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would put him top 15 for sure. I already have him top 30 area.
     
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  2. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Odds are Foreman and Norton meet somewhere along the line even in this continuity, with predictable results. Not out of the question that Norton nabs the title from Ali or Frazier (who get it from Quarry) before Foreman squashes Norton.
     
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  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Top fifteen or top thirty what?
     
  4. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Top fifteen heavyweights ever (had he gotten that W) and a top 30 HW ever without it.
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Jerry Quarry is one of your top thirty heavyweights ever ? Interesting ..
     
  6. Ali Holmes

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    It's one of those wins that would be lightly regarded at the time, but highly regarded as time went on.

    But it would suggest to me that smaller guys, like say, Ezzard Charles could have had reasonable chances to win against a prime Foreman.
     
  7. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Quarry wins, then George himself is diminished. Still Quarry would of become champion and that raises him up. Add Foreman to the list of names of Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers, Floyd Patterson, Mac Foster, Thad Spencer and Buster Mathis.
    I think Jerry goes down as a top 25 Heavy. He still lost badly to Ali and Frazier 2x a piece and past prime to Norton. So he clearly finishes behind both of them for the decade of the 70s.
    He pulls neck and neck with Foreman on all time lists as George falls heavily with losses to Ali, Young and Quarry.
    Quarry is viewed as a nightmare match up all time for any slugger type of heavy. Foreman is viewed as much more beatable as three boxers, counter punchers beat him.
    Quarry has a big fan base so he could get overrated by some but I think 20-30 range would be appropriate and George and Norton would be in same range.
     
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  8. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Top 15 or Top 20.
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It wouldn't change my opinion of Quarry a whole lot, but it would certainly hurt the historical opinion on Foreman
     
  10. Holmes77

    Holmes77 Member Full Member

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    Quarry would have never beaten Foreman. That goes maybe 2 rounds and they carry Quarry out on a stretcher. I would have liked to seen Quarry fight Cooney lol
     
  11. BCS8

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    If Marciano had beaten Ali I'd rank him #1
     
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  12. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    Between 15 - 20 in the ATG HW ranking
     
  13. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    What would Muhammad Ali do for pre fight publicity? Get a little doll made to look like Jerry Quarry, then pull it out of his front pocket, C'mon Jerry It Could Get Hairy, And We Are Going To Rumble Before You Stumble.
     
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  14. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    HAD QUARRY BEATEN FOREMAN IN 1973?
    Goodnes guys - he would be top ten of ALLTIME. he Defeated 9 world ranked contenders anyway , knocked out 5 and probably defeated at least a half dozen 11-20 range. He would have had movie offers that were unreal, commercials, he had all that anyway , but now on a much much larger $ scale! -Folks he would have finally climbed that mountain had he defeated they Undefeated "BIG BAD:" GEORGE FOREMAN!

    on a sadder note, Jerry would have gone on to have 2 or 3 more divorce's!
     
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  15. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    Ken Norton once quipped had he had Jerry Quarry's losse's he would no longer be in the top ten, Well Kenny defeated 5 world ranked fighter's (Ko'd 3) Okay! Jerry Quarry defeated 9 (Kayoing 5 and 2 of those were the No. 1 contenders). Thats why he was ranked so high from 1967-75. Researching only fellow contender Ron Lyle was even close to defeating that many, none were in the top 3 or so. and mostly ranked by WBA (8) -and not Ring magazine (4) What Ken Norton held over they other top contenders although he was an truly excellant fighter was his 3 bouts and San Diego victory over Muhammad Ali.
     
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