Where would you rank the winner of Teofimo Lopez vs Shakur Stevenson on the P4P list?

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  1. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Well put, I can dig that perspective. I think having Haney over him is crazy though xD
     
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  2. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am honestly not a fan of Haney, but he beat Kambosos twice, something Teo didn't do once. He then went up to 147 and beat an undefeated Brian Norman, who many believed was the number one guy at 147. To be honest, it's only the Norman win that clinches it for me; there's not much in it. They're both flawed.

    If they fought, and both were at their best, I would pick Teo to win, but he's just so inconsistent and has so many dubious performances that it's hard to rank him that high P4P.
     
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  3. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If anyone remembers Salvador Sanchez vs Wilfredo Gomez that was a fight where the fighter moving up in weight to challenge the champion was the betting favorite initially. Could this fight end up with similar results where see the defending champion as the underdog managing to put on a great showing and beat the favored fighter? Or will this be more in line with fights like Naoya Inoue vs Stephen Fulton or Devin Haney vs Regis Prograis where the favorite is the challenger moving up and ends up successfully winning in their first fight at that weight class?

    Whoever wins this will definitely be considered a huge victory for both fighters, perhaps arguably their greatest win in their careers by far.
     
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  4. Lonsdale81

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    I wouldn't.. P4P is BS.. especially in this pre day weigh in weight grifter age.
     
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  5. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Yeah, as I mentioned in my other post, Inoue and Bud being over Bivol because they jumped up in weights of 3 lb increments while he dominates his division and topples another p4p leveler in Beterbiev is a good example of the flawed thinking of p4p…

    As a matter of fact, I think I’ll stop participating in the p4p debacle as of this post, lol!
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    In the top 5 somewhere. 4 or 5. They already have Shakur ranked at #7 which I think is too high but then again I think a lot of the guys in the bottom half of the top 10 are there by default as we're going through a period of transition

    Teo isn't ranked in the top 10 at all but if he beats Shakur he will have wins over 3 unbeaten fighters ranked in the P4P top 10 albeit Taylor was unbeaten in name only and he had the deck stacked in his favour vs Loma and Taylor and Loma was obviously much smaller and both Loma and Taylor had been very inactive (14 and 16 months) and were injured

    But then you have to factor in Teo lost to Kambosos and should have lost to Martin and Ortiz all in his own backyard or country

    Should either be ranked above Bivol or Bam-Rod if they win? There's no argument for them to be ranked top 3
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The Ring have moved him up to #3 ahead of Bam-Rod and Bivol

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    I don't agree with that. You can argue that Bam-Rod has been raiding care homes and that Bivol is a one-weight champ but you can also argue that Shakur beat a Teo who should've been 4-3 in his last 7 and he really should've been, whose weakness vs backfoot or risk averse slick boxers who don't come to him has been thoroughly exposed, and he's only scored 1 stoppage and 1 KD at 140. Teo should be 4-4 at 140

    I don't know exactly where I'd have Shakur but it would be between 4-6 at the lowest but I think 3 is too high. In terms of skills yes but Teo was removed from the P4P 10 for those unofficial losses to Sandor and Ortiz

    I'd say either 4 or 5

    And Sandor should be undefeated since 2017 with wins over 17-1 Teo, 40-1 Mikey Garcia and a 23-0 Puello all in their backyards or on neutral soil with Puello but he gets no love