Where would you rank usyk if he beats Parker and kabayel and then retires

You mark my words. He will lose if he doesn't retire some day and that is a FACT.

 

Usyk is already the best of his era so already a bonafide ATG,now if he was to beat a resurgent Parker who is also a former belt holder and then beat Kabayel the top contender of the generation coming after this era well that would be a very big statement before he retires as many also see Kabayel as the current biggest threat to Usyk and for good reason .

 

Probably in the top 10 heavyweight all time.

 

I dont think beating these two fighters will change his assessment much. They would be decent wins, but, neither fighter is championship caliber.

 

Exactly the same place
#1

 

That would probably put him in my top ten all time, displacing my current number 10, Wlad.
Maybe higher.

 

This is the right answer, and I like Kabeyal. But it is as you say.

There really is no one after Parker, unless Kabeyal has another big fight and props himself up a little more.

 

For me, time (and $$) permitting, the trifecta would be (not necessarily in particular order) Parker, Kabayel and Wardley. (Itauma's too young and I shouldn't expect Usyk to stick around well into his 40s.)

If he defeats all three he can retire as the guy who defeated all legit best HWs of this era -- HWs who could match up with the HW contenders of prior eras. And this would cement Usyk among the top-10 if not top-5 of history's HWs.... IMHO ....

 

Parker is not an ATG, doesn't change anything. Stays at #3 for me (old school bias).

 

If Usyk beats Parker and Kabayel and then retires undefeated, it might make the difference between him falling desperately short of a top 10 all-time heavyweight ranking and actually getting into the top 10 all-time.

It would also help reinforce his P4P claims, both for this era and all-time.

 

Since the two men mentioned are not all time great heavyweights I wouldn't rank him any higher than I do now. Not inside my top 10.

 

How would losing to the undisputed champion and a top 3 P4P fighter expose him as a hypejob?

 

Anywhere between 5th and 10th on an ATG list, if he beats them both like he beat Dubois. He's getting older now, though, and could be 40 by the time he fights either of them; Father Time waits for no one. Usyk now beats them both comfortably at the moment, but if he starts slowing down over the next 18 months, then he could lose, Usyk is a legend but he's not unbeatable.

 

It'd solidify his place as the best HW for the early 2020s. I don't really rate anyone from this era in my top 50 so for me it wouldn't change much.

My problems with Usyk in this era(the rematches, not really "unifying") can be fixed by him going out and beating a few really good HWs. All time theres nothing he can do. A "short career" for a HW great is something like Joe Fraziers 37 fights. Getting to 10-0 at HW and 26-0 for his career does nothing for him.

Usyk beating Kabayel would impress me(and lead to me not rating Kabayel as high). I really have no doubt Usyk can beat Parker. Parkers an interim champ and has earned his shot but Usyk beating Parker changes nothing for me.