Where's Floyd Mayweather Jr. Outcry?

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let's say you actually had some common sense and would tell this story without omitting tons of facts from the time line.

    Let's say that professional sports had been rocked by scandal after scandal involving top level athletes using performance enhancing drugs to extend their careers and set world records.

    Let's say Pacs FATHER said "In my opinion..." about a fighter, and it is his RIGHT to have an opinion, who was setting unprecedented records and doing unprecedented things.

    Let's say Manny asked FMJ to take the tests, FMJ agreed, then whined about random, then ran to fight someone else after first LYING about a 14 day cut off being offered, but then admitting it later.

    Let's say Pac had web pages with "fans" from around the world posting horribly racist comments 24/7 and Pac made the non PC mistake of mentioning Black people eating chittlin's for which they seemed ashamed for no reason.

    Let's say that maybe Pac doesn't even want to deal with FMJ after he LIED the first negotiations and seems to be LYING again in these negotiations by agreeing to 14 days when 14 days was offered the first time now acting as though he agreed to full OSDT.

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    FMJ's statements were thoughtless and crude. There is no defending them, however boxers make homophobic, mysogenistic, and racist comments CONSTANTLY. That does not give Mayweather a pass, but it does call into question why it is such a big deal for Mayweather while not for others.
     
  2. johnnydrama

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    I'm sure they'll find a way to defend him anyway. It's pretty sad Floyd has this much control over his most loyal fans. He makes his fans look bad and they can't even acknowledge it.
     
  3. johnnydrama

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    Honestly I feel you...there were some questionable comments and actions on Part of PAC MAN's team. But be real.....the whole situation came about when Floyd's pops came out and slandered PAC's name and Floyd followed right along with it. Having to combat those kinds of accusations would put any man in Manny's position in a very uncomfortable situation....one he wasn't use to or had to go through before. Having to field questions that are this serious in a foriegn language has got to be difficult. Even in your own language it's difficult to defend against those kinds of comments. So you can imagin PAC MAN's dilema.

    Your arguement makes sense and I won't bust your balls too much. I'm just saying there are KEY differences in the MLB roid scandal and the one Floyd manifested with the help of his team. But again....stricter testing is always better. It jsut didn't make much sense coming from the mayweathers side.

    But you didn't answer my question. What "IF".....the roles were reversed? How would you feel about PAC if he proceeded to make those kinds of racial comments about Floyd? I gurantee you along with everyone else would be putting PAC MAN on blast.

    Floyd really isn't getting too much heat aside from some news articles but he's not getting his endorsements pulled or anyting on that level. There are plenty of people who are in the spotlight, who've made racist comments or racial sterotypes who've lost their jobs, been fined or their reputations have taken an irreversable turn for the worse.
     
  4. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude I'm only suggesting a 3 to 6 months boxing license revocation for Floyd's racist outburst. This penalty won't hurt him that much since he's still on "vacation" and he doesn't have the "urge" to fight til next year BUT a disciplinary action should teach racist Floyd a good lesson.

    Floyd proclaimed to clean up boxing and be the first to demand stringent drug/blood testings that boxing commissions did not even implement at this time. So it maybe justified if Floyd will be the first boxer to be penalized for grave racist misconduct. We will clean up boxing and we will start with racist Floyd.
     
  5. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This could be a familiar headline in the next few days or weeks:

    Chad Ochocinco Replaces Floyd Mayweather As The Reebok Poster Boy



    SOURCE
     
  6. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    now your making it into something else on your own.....

    come on the man called him yellow....if i call you white or black am i racist are you going to start whining?

    Now the egg roll thing is stereotype not a racial slur..like you said and as i have said chicken and watermelon is widely used as a reference for black people(hope i didnt offend anyone using the word black)....NO it is not right but got dayum the shyt is not that far fetched considring their is partial truth to the fact that chicken is a big part of our culture im not scared to say it and some people are so damn sensitive.

    You made some i guess black jokes up there but im guessing you never heard stand up comedy....those jokes are far worse but are aired live on t.v from all races and color....so those jokes you said again are typical so i dont believe the up roar would be as you think it is and some on ESB for some reason are tryng to make this out to be....hell i know some of you have made jokes like this....hell i have done it still will crack on a person at times on freinds its jokes man.

    Again i said this time and time again...i dont care if Pac did come out and say he want Floyd to take the test......he still would be wrong as is Floyd for doing so...HOWEVER.....Floyd could 1) have ONE excuse preferably its not required and stick with that ONE excuse or 2) Just take the test seing as how its a got dayum blood test not blood donations.

    (For the record i dont give a damn what athlete or what sport i dont feel ANY athlete should have a choice when coming to random drug testing, if its able to be done, in this case it is, then their should be no questions all parties should be for this...JMO)

    Anyways the last thing about i guess picking cotton you said.....show me anything in that clip which relates to slavery or anything that harsh where he referenced to Pac. You think thats the same thing as what Floyd said fixing egg rolls and called him yellow?

    Im not saying that this wasn't offensive yes it was but got dayum people....we have heard worse...this shyt aint that serious. I think he hurt himself more than anything.
     
  7. igotJUIC3

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    i agree....and thats because if you really listen to what he said....we hear that type of talk all the time his comments were more stereotypical than i would say racial...and i know the two words can kinda go hand in hand but thier is a difference.
     
  8. johnnydrama

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    Not at all.. It was a comment used to project the impact that Floyd's words had on a group of people who were offended. I knew that would offend black folk which is why I said it. Which is why Floyd said the things he said. My comment wasn't right and neither was Floyd's. My point has been made.

    Black and White has NO negative implications tied to those descriptive words. But when you call an asian "YELLOW"...that was a despritive word used back in the day to reference Asians in a negative light. Like the words ******, spics, towel heads or gooks. The words Black, white and brown are not considered NEGATIVE.

    Even rappers don't call asians YELLOW b/c they know it's in bad taste. "Black, white, brown, Pureto Rician or ASIAN".....Tribe knows what's up!

    Stand up comedy is a completely different ball game. They are making FUN! And they are in a atmosphere where clutures and ethnic backgrounds are commonly used as topics for their sets.

    What Floyd did, he did with malice...his intent wasn't to entertian a group of paying customers comdedy relief at the end of a hard work week. Floyd's comments were intended to clown Manny and his culture for no good reason other than he's upset people are siding with PAC MAN.

    The cotton pickin reference and the BBQ dog and cat comments in my opinion are on the same level although referencing different situations. They are both seen as NEGATIVE comments for each group of people.
     
  9. johnnydrama

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    Sometime sterotypes and racist comments go hand in hand. Not all the time but in this case it was true.

    Had PACMAN said similar things or if Imus said similar things about Black folks there would be a bigger outcry by the masses. I don't think its necessary in this case b/c it was Money Mayweather making the comments. He's expected to say outlandish things but this was on anther level. And I'm glad he apologized.
     
  10. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a sad way to find the hypocrisy in the "justices" inflicted upon racist white people. Mayweather is a racist and an ******* at that. If there are any penalties in his profession for the obesenties he spewed , he should received the maximum. Believe it or not most black people do not condone this buffoonery. Point is, all of the above people got what they deserved. Stop trying to make racists and bigots into victims. This thread was meant to slam blacks folks, and it looks like you succeeded.
     
  11. Stezzie

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    How is Mayweather getting a pass or being treated differently because he is black? Lets keep in mind he is a boxer. People say racist **** all the time. For instance John Mayer spouted **** similar to what Mayweather said... It made a few headlines and then died away... Was he given a pass because he was white?

    You dont have to be a rocket scientist to understand that words from an entertainer/athlete are not taken the same as the words of a politician or someone in the media... Do you really not understand that?

    As far as the NAACP... Have you look into the acronym(NAACP)?? That alone will explain to you why you havent heard anything from Al or Jesse...

    A little common sense can really go a long way...:good
     
  12. bald_head_slick

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    What is "slandering" Pac? Saying that "in his opinion "is crazy strange that he is moving up weight and improving his KO percentage? That is real. So are you now of the opinion that people can't express opinions?

    FMJ didn't follow along with anything. His team had a concern and he stated that he wanted better testing and would be willing to do the EXACT SAME TESTS.

    Sorry. No man would do what Manny did unless he was actually cheating. If you get the job offer of your life and they say, "You have to pass a drug test." If you are clean? You are all for it. You are confident. If you are dirty you make a bunch of BS excuses.

    Dude if being a multi-millionaire and being broke are decided on taking a PED? I don't fault any athlete for taking them. It is the commissions that have to step up and do the right thing. The NFL and MLB are all complicit in the PED use. Just like boxing is. Why? It makes for better fights and extends the careers for big names making money for everyone.

    How would I feel? I have lived in Asia and continue to have close ties to Asia. Asians make those kinds of statements all of the time about foreigners in general. Blacks too. "******" toothpaste. Performing in Black face. It is COMMON in Asia to stereotype.

    I would understand that due to Pac's upbringing his world views may be different. I am not apologizing for FMJ's ignorance, but that is what it is... IGNORANCE. He isn't being malicious. It is just that he likes to talk trash and isn't particularly witty. You guys are having fun with this because it gives you a "valid" reason to hate the man.
     
  13. bald_head_slick

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    Dude. This was boxing smack talk. So if an Asian comedian rips Blacks on stereotypes is that "racist"?
     
  14. johnnydrama

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    PAC's KO percentage has been CONSISTANT. If you really want to get technical PAC's KO percentage is DOWN from 135. But given PAC has been consistantly moving up and not fighting as much his KO percentage as a PUNCHER is always gonna be high. THere are PLENTY of fighters who have moved up and still produced KO's. Floyd included.

    Expressing opinions and looking to hurt and discredit someone's character and career accomplishments are something eles. Especially if you have no way to back up those kinds of comments.

    Floyd followed along with Sr's statments that PAC was a cheat...that he's been winning becuase he's on roids and some special **** from the Philipines that make bullets bounce off him. Crazy **** man.

    Manny accepted tests he jsut had a requirment of his own for the cut off of the last blood test.

    No one in their right mind would **** up a sure thing in making BIG money by creating a cloud of suspision about the other fighter and then push OSDT knowing that would or could cause problems making the fight.

    Had PAC did that to Floyd.......Floyd woldn't have even negotiated at all. He would do like Jay and be "On to the next one".

    If you were offered the job of your life and there were requiremnts for drug tests from the COMPANY....as the person going for the job you take the damn tests.

    But in this case there ARE tests and FLoyd doesn't dictate those rules to his opponents. Floyd is not the EMPLOYER here in your post...the COMMISSION is.

    That would be like doing all the tests that were requried to get that Position of a lifetime and some other organization demanded their own tests and requirments for you to take who really had no right to demand in the first place.

    And by asians doing that kind of stuff and saying that kind of stuff about Black folks doesn't make it right and it's derogatory in nature. Which is why Floyd is in the wrong here.
     
  15. johnnydrama

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    In a atmosphere like a comedy club or a stand up act it's expected that there will be contraversial comments having to do with cultural sterotypes. That's not the same situation with Floyd's comments. He wasn't working at the IMROV on a Friday night entertaining a group of hard working indivduals who PAID to see some comic relife at the end of the week.

    Floyd was online....in the comforts of friends, family and his home....Making racial comments with a very negative tone numerous times about various different situations that are seen as NEGATIVE sterotypes agianst Asians.

    You wouldn't expect Obama to be giving the state of the union address and talking about racial steotypes, but if you go to see chris rock you'd be surprised if 90% of his set wasn't having to do with cultral sterotypes.