Where's JT?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Morrissey, Apr 4, 2008.


  1. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    There is no point of fighting when you know you will lose to all elites out there.
     
  2. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't know you'll lose unless you fight the fights.

    And of course the money doesn't hurt either :thumbsup
     
  3. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    I know but there is a big chance he will lose those.

    And the fights will still be there, obviously, but it won't longer in a PPV.:D
     
  4. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    The improvement we saw in Taylor between the 2 Pavlik fights was very impressive, and he did it from one fight to the very next. I'll give an arbitrary number for the sake of discussion. Let's call it 20%. If Jermain were to improve another 20% over the course of fighting a couple of "B" level guys, he can become a serious force at 168. Given the recent announcement that Pavlik will move up next year, are we headed for Pavlik/Taylor III late next year?

    Boo
     
  5. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    Would anyone be interested for this fight if ever?

    I think pavlik has his numbers, and holds a psychological advantage over him.

    He had his chance in their two fights. The third fight won't be different.
     
  6. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tommy Hearns is to Jermaine Taylor as Iran Barkley is to Kelly Pavlik.

    There's no need for a third fight...sometimes someone just has your #. The fact that Taylor had pretty much a perfect fight against Pavlik the second time around and couldn't win says it all.
     
  7. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let him be the man just had 2 grueling fights with Pavlik maybe he needs a nice rest.
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I understand what you're saying, but I really think that at some point they will meet again at 168. It could very well turn out to be a case of seeing who the dominate guy is in that division. With Slappy Joe out of the picture the only real threat to either would be Kessler and one another.
     
  9. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    Where's he? Seriously.
     
  10. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's still quite young and outside of Pavlik I dont think MW division is particularly competitive so he's still got time to offer more at that weight
     
  11. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    168 is a deep division so Taylor will have plenty of options there. I think he will rise to the top of that division as well. Only Kessler and maybe/maybe not Bute would be favored over him. Taylor-Miranda is one of the best fights that can be made in boxing. Even if it were to happen at supermidleweight I don't want to see a third fight with Pavlik. I'm looking foward to his return though.
     
  12. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    He was wary of Pavlik. That was the best he could do, and we know he won't beat him in the scorecards with that kind of gameplan.

    He just can't take a punch well. He can't stand toe to toe with Pavlik.

    I thnk he knows it as well, that is why it is taking him so long to figure out his bleak future.
     
  13. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Well Taylor got it the first fight. The score cards were a joke. Lowe told Pavlik it was dead even going into 11. I think many people saw it that way. Personally, I think the 10 point must, must go. If the second fight continued to 'last man standing' it would have been Pavlik. In Pride, the fight was scored as a whole and credit was given for attempts to 'finish' the fight. Under Pride rules Hopkins would have been yellow carded 3 times and lost 30% of his purse and been DQ'd for stalling. :yep
     
  14. jazzboy

    jazzboy Free Boosie Full Member

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    I think taylor is going to do big things coming up. I honestly think he won the 2nd pavlik fight. With him leaving emauel steward he can only improve. Steward was a henerence to him.
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    That's probably because you are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other!