Which active fighters are ATG's in a weight division?

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  1. herbzg

    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    These Euro-level professionals are not only ATGs in their respective weight divisions, but ATGs regardless of weight division.

    Viacheslav Senchenko 31-0
    Alexander Frenkel 23-0
    Selcuk Aydin 21-0
    Zsolt Erdei 31-0
    Sebastian Zbik 30-0
    Stanyslav Kashtanov 28-0
    Tomas Kovacs 19-0
    Sergey Rabchenko 17-0
    Andrzej Wawrzyk 21-0
    Mariusz Wach 24-0
    Vyacheslav Glazkov 9-0
     
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  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At cruiserweight, there aren't 10 better fighters than Haye. Guys like Carlos De Leon are always rated highly but did he really have a better record? Come on. He didn't beat anyone as good as Mormeck or Maccarinelli. Johnny Nelson is always a lock for the top 10 yet he was nowhere near as good as Haye. Jirov was a decent fighter but didn't beat any quality opponents and when he fought one, Toney, he got beat up. Gomez was decent but, again, Haye was better.

    Are there really 10 fighters who were better than Haye at cruiserweight? I think it's delusional to say "yes".
     
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  3. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh, you mean you're actually being serious about this. Well it's a bit pointless considering the ten best ever CW's when the division is only a couple of decades old and has had only about 20 champions.
     
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  4. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    Rafa Marquez!
     
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  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know. He's still an ATG in the division no matter how shallow it is.

    It's weird how a couple of anti-Haye posters come into a thread and add nothing. Purely post to discredit Haye.

    It's sad.
     
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  6. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    But you started a thread to simply pump Haye up.The rest of the names you threw out are just a formality.

    Haye is no ATG sorry.
     
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  7. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm a Haye fan actually. But this pointless thread of yours is bit like giving a tall dwarf a medal for being the tallest dwarf in the World.
     
    Manning, Jun 2, 2011
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  8. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't like Haye anywhere near as much as guys like Pacquiao or Juan Manuel Marquez. I'm not a huge fan of his, so, yeah...you're wrong. A baseless argument.

    The fact remains that Haye is a top 10 cruiser. If you deny that, you're an idiot.
     
    Jack, Jun 2, 2011
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  9. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Your first sentence has me convinced you are on meds...and if not you should be.

    Top 10 CW does not make him a ATG.
     
    PolishPummler, Jun 2, 2011
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  10. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I say Hopkins was a very good Middleweight , But as much as it hurts me i cant allow myself to say he was an ATG middleweight . Despite his numerous title defenses ,What Great true middleweight has he beaten
     
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  11. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye no. Calderon no... hof maybe, not atg.
     
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