Which American Heavyweights can beat David Haye?

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  1. Jаck

    Jаck P4P King Full Member

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    None of them.
     
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  3. krazylegs

    krazylegs Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree with basically all you said. Arreola has been dropped by lesser opponents, and his lack of speed would make it extremely hard to land any of his power punches on Haye. But if he could last late in the fight like he did vs. Vitali he could tire out Haye and possible land. Chambers could possibly win a SD or MD and it wouldn't surprise me. Although any KO in that fight would come from Haye.

    The only thing i do disagree with, and not by to much, is that Arreola is better then Chisora.. Chisora got blown out by Haye, beat by Fury when they were both over weight. Fought Hellenius and Vitali almost the majority of each fight when they both had bad shoulder injuries and managed to lose, with out coming close to dropping either of them. Although I admit he should have won on pts vs. Hellenius.. Just a quick comparison Chambers should have won a fight with 1 arm vs. a top contender and got robbed, yet twice Chisora was the guy fighting the injured fighter and couldn't pull it off.

    With Wilder being so young and having so much time to improve, he could be mentioned as well. Just not yet. I don't see either him or Haye taking each others shot's with out going down.
     
  4. ZaWaldo

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    None of the ones you mentioned but I still think Solis can beat Haye if he comes in in decent enough shape.
     
  5. Cableaddict

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    Chambers has a punchers' chance, as others have said.

    The only other one on the list with any chance at all is Wilder. If such a fight happened, he might simply be able to overpower Haye with his offense. But of course, there's no way to know since Wilder has never faced such a crafty opponent. He might not be able to handle Haye's speed & power.

    More than likely, Haye would just dance around even more than against Wlad, and win an easy (boring) decision. I sure would like to see this fight, though.
     
  6. Heavyrighthand

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    Haye beats anyone aside from the K bros.

    And he does it desively, too.
     
  7. Royal-T-Bag

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    Arreola would have a good chance, I'd favour Haye but not by much 60-40 type ****. If Arreola can get him to exchange he will put his lights out. In a few years Wilder is a def possibility since Haye has a lot of trouble with the really tall heavyweights and Wilder is massive puncher. I'd give Wilder a damn good chance, especially in a few years.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Tor Hamer not even nominated? :-(
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Also, on behalf of Americans, we do not want to claim Adamek. :nono
     
  10. Royal-T-Bag

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  11. Strike

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    No he can't. He was in dire trouble when dropped by Walker, and Haye hits harder and with greater speed. Look what Haye did to Chisora who had never been dropped and took a pasting from Vitali without looking like going down.
     
  12. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I don't favour anybody over Haye from that list. It doesn't mean none could do it. Upsets could certainly happen if he went around and faced all of, let's say the top four or five of those.

    I don't know as Haye hits harder than Walker, really. Being the clear better class and skilled enough to land better shots is obviously not the same as hitting harder. I think Walker is one of the division's harder hitters. He's just not one of the better fighters. Haye is an explosive puncher. Walker is a very, very hard, heavy-handed puncher.

    And, yeah, Arreola can absolutely take a punch. We know this because he's walked directly into enough of them on film and has never been stopped by anything other than a vicious beating leading to his corner calling it. His chin and his powers of recovery are both good. His defence is another matter. Most guys are going to be visibly shaken by plowing into flush power-punches from heavy-handed big men like they're starving for a fist sandwich. I think a lot of sturdy chins are going to be rocked with that kind of game-plan.

    Regardless, I think Arreola forces Haye into a shootout and the faster, better fighter probably gets a stoppage. But he'd be in danger until it was over, I think.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

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    While Arreola did take Vitali late, Chisora took Vitali the distance and look what Haye did to him. I just can't see how a fighter as easy to hit as Arreola could avoid not getting hit against the fastest fighter he would have ever faced in Haye.

    Adamek had no problem landing shots on Arreola and I just can't see how he'd last long enough to take advantage of Haye's poor endurance and stamina. Arreola's best chance would be to stop Haye early because with his lack of defence he's not going to be conscious long enough to take the fight to a stage, to get to a tiring Haye.

    In regards to Chisora/Arreola. Chisora is simply more proven, he did better against Vitali than Arreola did, he's lately fought a much better level of opposition and I think he has the better defence.

    I would love to see Arreola vs Chisora think it would be a really entertaining fight as both guys would be coming forward. Arreola clearly has the power advantage but I think Chisora is strong enough and durable enough to trade with Arreola on even terms. Not 100% certain who would win but based on their performances against Vitali and their recent performances I would slightly favour the plucky Brit.
     
  14. Royal-T-Bag

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    Travis Walker is one of the hardest punchers in the game....he's crude but dude hits like a ****ing tank. Arreolas chin is iron and he is infinitely better than Chisora in just about evry category. Haye's chin is not very good and Arreola can punch....I would predict Haye to win by boxing and moving and staying out of range but if he exchanges it's lights out, and there's very few who are better finishers at HW right now when a guys hurt. Arreola took a much greater beating from a healthier Vitali than Chisora did.
     
  15. Arran

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    Arreola got 20 votes :rofl:rofl we have trolls!