Which among these fighters do you consider an ATG? Toney, Tszyu, Wright and Calzaghe

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which among this fighters do you consider ATG? Toney, Tszyu, Wright and Calzaghe

    I would say none of them is ATG...
     
  2. Twisted_Metal

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  3. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would not mind having Calzaghe as an ATG.

    The others, i really can find any reason
     
  4. Twisted_Metal

    Twisted_Metal Active Member Full Member

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    this
     
  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you believe he only take steroids in his HW fight?
    Im not sure if there is already a drug testing in the early 90s
     
  6. agentsmith

    agentsmith Active Member Full Member

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    Drug testing started in 2001 and didnt become the norm until 2002
     
  7. horst

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    James Toney is the only one in my opinion. I rank them:

    1.Toney


    2.Winky
    3.Calzaghe


    4.Tszyu
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Toney. 4 weight champion

    Nunn, MacCallum, Barkley, Jirov, Holyfield, and Ruiz.

    Nuff said.
     
  9. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    Tszyu had the superior amateur career but out of all 4 in the pro ranks i would have it..

    Toney

    then the other 3...
     
  10. agentsmith

    agentsmith Active Member Full Member

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    Toney is a 3 weight champion, he was stripped after the Ruiz fight for testing positive for roids
     
  11. Olander

    Olander Active Member Full Member

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    Tszyu and Calzaghe are slam dunk first ballot HOFers. I consider them ATG as well. They would at least be competitive with anyone in boxing history who would be considered the best at either 140 for Tszyu or 168 for Calzaghe.

    I would rank them as follows:

    1. Tszyu
    2. Calzaghe
    3. Toney
    4. Wright
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    zoo is dead last in this group. There can be no case made for having zoo ranked first other than being an extreme nuthugger. Learn the sport or log off. Toney calzaghe and Wright are the all time greats here.
     
  13. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    James Toney as much as I dont like him.
     
  14. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    I vote none, but could see a case for Toney. Winky is a real stretch and Tsyzu and Calzaghe are not even close.
     
  15. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Winky is arguably the best ever at 154 and if not he is a shoe in for everyone's top 5. How can you be a top 5 ATG in a weight class yet not be considered an ATG.....

    And yeah 154 is newer than the other divisions but its still about 30 years old. So you are talking about someone who was in the top 3 or 5 minimum of that weight class in 30 years.