Which among these fighters do you consider an ATG? Toney, Tszyu, Wright and Calzaghe

atgs: none

potential HoFers: all of them

 

None of them are ATGs

But James Toney comes the closest

 

I dont consider any of them to be all time greats even though some of them are top 10 or even top 5 in their best division but in my view none of them belong on an all time top 50 list.

Of that list James Toney is head and shoulders above the others in terms of skills and resume.

 

omg that is MIND BOGGLING :rofl

 

None of them are ATGs

But James Toney comes the closest

 

you total **** jockey:bart

 

Definitely Winky. He beat 2 hall of famers in Tito and Mosley and was the underdog in both fights. He also got a draw in the Taylor fight and landed more punches on Bernard even tho Hopkins landed the cleaner, stronger shots. Some people feel he should of gotten the decision on both Taylor and Vargas.

 

If I had to choose someone from this list then Calzaghe I suppose...

 

Toney
Tszyu
Wright
Calzaghe

 

Hall of Famers yes. ATG no way.

 

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The General Forum really underrates James Toney, I think because he looks so fat at HW. He's absolutely Top 50 in my book.

 

I chose Wright (no pun intended). I'm not too familiar with James Toney's career eventhough from what I read he's at least a high level HOFer. Wright in my opinion is at least a high level HOFer. He was just so dominant at the time when he was beating Mosley, Trinidad, and Quartey, and drawing to the bigger Jermaine Taylor. It was his inactivity in the past few years that would ruin his chances to be a full fledge ATG despite having a long career 51W-5L-1D (57 total). His loss to then up and coming star Fernando Vargas was a close robbery. He was a slickster who in his later part of his career adopted a high guard defense that could shoot short quick jabs with either hand. It was an innovative weapon that Mosley, Trinidad, and Quartey could not deal with.

My favorite on the list is Kostya Tszyu, but despite fighting very good opposition throughout his career, he had only 33 fights. Calzaghe is great too, but his lack of great opposition at their prime is what made me choose Wright.

 

I agree with you 100%