Which ATG's does prime Hamed beat?

nope they wouldn't fight naz to start with

 

Prime Morales (around the 1st Barerra fight) takes Naz.

Probably not 3 out of 3, as Naz has a big equaliser in his power.

 

All of which took place after Hameds prime. atsch

 

Can't speak for all of the names mentioned but Hamed certainly beats Morales and Barrera prime for prime I'm sure of it.

Naseem reached his peak early and before he even fought in America.

A prime, determined and focused Hamed KO's Barrera I don't care what anyone says.

 

Hamed hit his peak before going to America?

Who did he beat during this peak? Genuine point/question. Looking great whipping guys with no chins, or stepping up a weight clas does not constitute a peak. IMO.

 

Hamed was only 27 when he fought MAB and hadn't taken any beatings. No way was he past his prime. He was just stepping up to the elite level for the first time and wasn't good enough. If it had happened two years earlier or two years later, the result would have been the same. Hamed knew this himself.

If you recall the post-fight interview, he seemed quite satisfied that he'd lasted the 12 rounds. He knew he couldn't improve on that, otherwise he would have enforced the rematch clause he had in the contract. And I write this as a Hamed fan.

 

Tyson was past his peak way younger than that, also whilst taking no beatings...and he went over the hump for the same reason, he got arrogant, lazy and forgot how to box.

I reckon it's impossible to say how peak Hamed would have done against undisputed greats, there's just no evidence at all.

 

Amazing how Hamed's peak ended the minute he started fighting good world class fighters.

The guy was a waste of talent, but also very overrated and limited.

 

the kelly fight was after the awesome victory over the legendary badillo in december 1997. the medina fight was in august 1996. when was hamed in his prime. wehn he turned pro in 1992

 

tyson destroyed the best men around. hamed never. he got exposed in fights against world class operators like Kevin Kelly, Manuel Medina AS a boxer who was very flawed technically. tyson showed that he was really sound defensively in his very brief prime. there were no flaws in his armour during his brief prime. that why we consider him an ATG

 

The point is...you can be over the hill at what? 23?

Tyson, unlike Hamed, practically cleaned his division out at his peak, that's why he's an all time great whilst Hamed is merely an enigma.

The Hamed who fought Kelly etc. was a shadow of the elastic ******* he used to be.

 

Barrera battered and schooled Hamed it was a masterclass IMO. Hamed was in his prime at this point, no doubt about it we all thought he was going to win so did he. This fight broke him as a fighter and a man, no heart, a true ATG would have come back look at the Barrera - Morales trilogy.

Hamed had tremendous strength and had the ability to beat all the fighters listed on his day, a punchers chance. Best V's Best he would struggle.

 

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naz had a punchers chance if he got the ATGS listed on a bad day. but prime for prime, he is a loser against nearly all of them

 

the kelly fight was only 2 months after what many consider to be hAMEDS best win over Badillo

My point is:

I consider tyson to be a great because he cleaned out his division. he beat everyone around in spectacular fashion. hamed ducked a few guys and when he did fight some of its creme, the arab ******* struggled to look that good