Which boxer in history would you pick in a bar fight?

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  1. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Tex Cobb not a bad choice. I'd be hard impressed to pick someone over Joe Frazier in a street fight. Joe wont start the fight. Whoever does Is gonna be sorry they did bout 5 seconds in. It may not be a clean punching display and couple people may end of in the emergency room. Frazier was a pit bull, you can claim victory laying in the hospital while your nuts are in a vice grip.
    Point is Joe is taking it the distance. Your muscles probably won't intimate him.
     
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  3. Barrf

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    Sonny Liston, Ron Lyle, Roberto Duran, Jack Dempsey, Mike Tyson.
     
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  4. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Sonny Liston any one who sees his stare would run a mile
     
  5. Richard M Murrieta

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    Carlos Monzon, I like living too much.
     
  6. steve21

    steve21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’d go with Joe too … others may be bigger or stronger, but I don’t think many were tougher. Frazier was one of those guys who would have died in the ring before he’d quit; if he had anyone other than Futch in his corner, he might have. That’s the guy you want to have your back, too -
     
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  7. janitor

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    A couple of thoughts.

    Perhaps somebody with experience in battle royales, like Jack Johnson or Elmer Ray might make sense.

    Perhaps somebody who was proficient in another martial art, like Paul Berlenbach.

    Perhaps we are overthinking this, and you can't go too far wrong, with any of the above.
     
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  8. Cookiedough

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    A prime Holyfield at cruiserweight. Brave, Aggressive when needed, Skilful, Heart of a lion. Imagine getting cracked with a bare fist straight down the pipe from Holyfield!! Say hello to some new dentures and reconstructive surgery. It doesn’t bare thinking about. I do like these bring a boxer to a bar fight threads.
    The reality is that prisons are littered with ex pro boxers, and amateurs, who went too far on the cobbles. Some only threw one punch, others threw many. The damage that can be inflicted very quickly is at its best severe, and at its worst fatal. With that said, there is no safer feeling than being in the company of the ‘boxing squad’ on a night out.
     
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  9. janitor

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    Size counts for a lot in a bar fight, in terms of psychological intimidation.

    The mere sight of Valuev, would make most attackers lose interest.
     
  10. Pugguy

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    Be mindful not to pick the guys that are too left of field crazy - they might just turn on you at the drop of a hat.

    Suffice to say, you WILL be shouting them drinks all night - if only to keep your readied beast placated - though that might be adding fuel to the potential fire that might harm you before anyone else.

    Liston was known to become indiscriminately aggressive under the influence - perhaps it released suppressed inner demons - I’d be restricting him to non alcoholic Fire Engines for the whole night.

    Too easy. :(
     
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  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    You raise a fair point. Valuev is looking better and better. Ex-bouncer, intimidating looking, huge, and presumably has some experience deescalating. Unlikely to murder somebody and get me arrested as an accomplice.

    Also Old George Foreman, since he saved the HBO broadcast team using polite intimidation against Bowe's groupies. He could probably talk us out of any legal trouble.
     
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  12. Barrf

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    If we are picking for intimidation, I pick Mike Tyson. He still has the aura, and everyone knows who he is. The fight would likely just not happen if he was there and told the other guys to **** off.

    As an aside, I'm having a humorous image of Lennox Lewis in a bar fight, being all polite and British and trying to defuse the situation. Then some guy hits him, and he turns around and knocks him out. Then apologies.
     
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  13. Entaowed

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    The confrontation with Tyson & Green was in the street. Harlem around 4 AM. Tyson tried to retreat but Green provoked him, Tyson got out & knocked him out cold. Was relieved the next day when the paper showed he had not killed him!
     
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  14. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Yes, capable but also level headed is best.

    I had a friend who was a bouncer who I knew over a number of years. Didn’t see him for a few years again - with a few more pounds on and not so fit - and was surprised that he was still moon lighting in the job.

    I said it must get that much more testing as you get older - particularly given a greater likelihood of young, fit protagonists - he replied - “True” but went on to say that his propensity to defer to his fistic skills (like a boxer, now somewhat eroded), had given way more to well developed de-escalation strategies which were successful far more often than not.

    Best for all parties. The younger, possibly more inherently angry bouncers often looking for half an excuse to go the knuckle with their equally young and troublesome patrons.
     
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  15. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    No need to imagine. This might approximate to how Lennox would deal with a drunk (for all intents and purposes, Riddick Bowe will suffice for the “role” :) )

    Here’s Lewis and Bowe talking “smack” to one another after Bowe defeated Holyfield to win the title. Lennox’s “proper” English/Jamaican hybrid delivery is classic and easily understood. I’ll never forget “Chicken Bowe”, “Yo, bring it on Maaan!” and “You ain’t nuttin’ to me.” Hahaha.

    Very subtle but also notice someone behind Bowe bumps Riddick and causes him to lurch ever so slightly toward Lewis - and Lewis twitches his own head back reflexively - can’t blame him - Bowe was the proverbial loose cannon.

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