Which Boxers were lucky\unlucky in regards of timing?

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Black fighters pre-Ali.


    And all the great fighters in Robinsons time who couldn't take/keep the belt from him
     
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  2. Jorodz

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    respectfully, i think the tide shifted some time before ali. yes, there was a degree of mob control and racism before that (ending with liston) but black fighters got title shots post-dempsey era
     
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  3. Azzer85

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    Trevor Berbick - Lucky because he got to beat up an old Ali
    Trevor Berbick - Unlucky because he ran into a prime Tyson
     
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  4. he grant

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    Excellent call on Johnson.
     
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  5. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    Yup.
     
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  6. mike_bngs

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    totaly agree Lamotta would been a lot happier if Robinson had not been an absolute force of nature! Also Joe C was lucky to be around after the best SMW crop had past, his best names were well past their best.
     
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  7. Tin_Ribs

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    Any tens of dozens of greats/near greats/very good fighters who fought in the same era and division of an extraordinary master champion. It's an endless list.

    - Tendler, Welsh, Kilbane, Dundee etc in Benny Leonard's day
    - Buchanan and DeJesus in the Duran era
    - Winstone and Ramos in Saldivar's heyday
    - Rudkin crossing Harada, Rose and Olivares in his 3 title cracks
    - Enrique Bolanos and Freddie Dawson against Ike Williams
    - Cokes and Benvenuti crossing paths with Napoles and Monzon
    - Kates, Ahumada and Lopez in the 70's light heavy scene
    - Kid Lewis having to split dibs with Britton

    And so on and so forth....
     
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  8. Bobby Sinn

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    Les Darcy- Unlucky with WW1 and political agendas. If only...

    Alan Rudkin- Harada, Rose and Olivares.. FFS.
     
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  9. Jorodz

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    unlucky-lazlo pap
     
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  10. ThinBlack

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    Jimmy Bivins, Harry Wills, and Wilfred Benitez were unlucky.Buster Douglass, Oliver McCall, and Bonecrusher Smith were lucky.
     
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    Frank Bruno: Unluckiest mandatory title defense ever, following his title winning effort against McCall.
     
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  12. Webbiano

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    Surprised no one has said Ali yet. Although the man had an unbelievable career what could have been considered his prime years were arguably taken away from him.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    Yes no 1.
    Sam Langford is in the frame too.
     
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  14. Son of Gaul

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    Jerry Quarry
    Charley Burley
     
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    fernando vargas - faced prime/near prime versions of dlh, trinidad, wright, quartey, mosley, and mayorga within only 31 career fights...although he did win a couple of titles he's the perfect example of somebody being matched too tough too early too soon
     
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