Which Boxing Organization do you think has the most legitimacy and prestige?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    the WBC is more prestigeous, but the WBA has more Legitimacy.

    overall its the WBA
     
  2. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    WBC, even if you look at their current crop of champions almost everyone deserve to be a legitimate champ except for david diaz
     
  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The WBC is the most corrupt. Maybe the WBA is the least bad... Look at some WBC issues:

    At HW: Peter had to win 2 eliminators vs. Toney to get a title shot (because WBC overruled it's own judges after the first fight) and it still took a year and a half to get the shot. How did Jameel McCline got a shot at the interim title not being in the top15 is something even WBC couldn't explain. Vitali's special "emeritus" position is a joke too: Juan Carlos Gomez won an eliminator long ago, but now has to win another, so it'll be at least 2 years before he'll get his shot. According to boxrec, Ruiz-McCline was a WBC eliminator too... How many WBC HW eliminators we have? Now expect David Haye - Hasim Rahman to be another eliminator at the end of the year.

    WBC is very biased. Sulaiman likes to have big names as his champions, so no one forced Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather to face their mandatories in the last few years. DLH getting a shot vs. Mayorga at the vacant title (as a mandatory, after 2 years lay-off, last fight is a KO loss at MW) was a cruel joke. Mayweather was never forced to face interim champ Mosley.

    But the Casamayor situation is the best: to make Mexican Morales a 4-division champ, WBC stripped Joel to name Diaz (who win his title via lucky punch) a full WBC champ - so Morales could fight a C+ level Top Rank fighter and get an easy win and a LW title... but somehow he still lost and Casamayor threatened the WBC to sue them, so they reinstated him as - it's gonna be good - an INTERIM champ! WTF?

    Or: Washed up Oscar Larios, who got beaten so badly in the Linares fight that he damaged his brain and was banned permanently from every US ring is now the interim champ and Linares' mandatory. :patsch The next boxing death on the championship level after the passing of Leavander Johnson (R.I.P. champ!) is coming guys, the the WBC, who's very proud of their medical rules, is responsible for that... luckily for them, we won't see it in the US because seriously brain damaged fighters can't fight in the US... Larios, the great warrior once, will die in his home country or Japan, maybe Venezuela...

    I think the WBC is the most corrupt, biased, moneymaking organization. Stripping champs as they like, naming mandatories and full champs as they like, making interim champs for more sanctioning feesmoney (in the last 12 months: Sam Peter, Adrian Diaconu, Shane Mosley, Joel Casamayor, Oscar Larios), corruption, everything.



    Of course almost every big promotion has it's influence on one or more than one organization. Don King, Bob Arum and GBP is strong enough to have a word on all organizations' rankings and selecting it's judges. WBO is of course is special because Warren and Universum only has the influence on that one, so when their fighters appear on the WBO list - but on the WBO only because they don't own other organizations - the influence is very visible. GBP's, TR's, DK's influence is not that visible, because they own every organization :verysad. Also, Sauerland's organization is IBF, Teiken's is WBC and WBA etc... not one organization is indipendent from promoters, but I still think WBC is far-far the worst, and I'm gonna tell you why it's goint to stay the worst...

    What I've said after the Rocchigiani situation, is that that the WBC should've been KO'd for good so the other organizations would've sh*t in their pants and be more humble these days... but since the WBC survived and has to pay millions to Rocchigiani every year according to court order, it's as corrupt as ever - because they are FORCED to make money all costs, and the only way is to keep the biggest names at all costs to get the biggest sanctioning fees, and also, make interim champs and elimitatiors for more money... when it's a do-or-die situation, corruption is common... if they don't do it, they can call it a day anyway. If they do it, they can still got caught by law, but it's the same if they don't do it: KO. But if lucky, they can get away with corrpution, so that's what WBC is doing...
     
  4. Balistik

    Balistik Member Full Member

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    The WBC is the most prestigious belt but like someone said earlier the fighter makes the title.
     
  5. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    None.

    They are all fraudulent.
     
  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    WBC, but the WBA is very close.

    WBC
    WBA
    IBF
    WBO
     
  7. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: At those who voted WBO
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    What really seems stupid to me is the fact that these bodies ever emerged in the first place.

    I mean, if you look at other global/international sports, they have a single governing body, i.e. the ICC for cricket, FIFA for football etc etc, so why can't boxing have one, for instance the WBC as World Boxing Council or Corporation or whatever?
     
  9. TommyV

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    WBC, closely followed by the WBA.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'm not actually going to vote for one of those fly-by-night money grabbing, soulless, empty random corrupt companies.

    Isn't the WBC the one that can have two champions in any given divisin? A PROPER champion and an INTERIM champion. Soon they'll be promototing a MEGA CHAMPION. Who won't fight the PROPER CHAMPION. It's actually reached the stage where actual govening bodies have split titles :rofl

    Well done to everyone who voted.
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Emeritus Champion
    Champion
    Interim Champion
    Mandatory Challenger

    So you could have four guys in the mix for a WBC Championship, as opposed to the the traditional two, champion and challenger.

    The WBA is perhaps worse, you could have three champs, plus two 'mandos'

    Super Champion (WBA & IBF for example)
    Regular Champion
    Interim Champion
    Mandos for Super and Regular
    Eliminator fighters!

    God knows what would happen if the regular champ wanted to unify!
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    ...

    :lol:
     
  13. Bomber

    Bomber Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "**** them all'' to quote Churchill.

    If I was a Billionaire, Id start up a "Unified" champonship at each weight, make the Champion defend his title against the No.1 ranked fighter once a year and have clear, professional criteria to each fighters ranking based on quality of opposition and win/loss record.

    Then again, Isnt that what its meant to be anyway?
     
  14. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another title is the last thing we need. The Ring tried that and now it's like a 4th belt.
     
  15. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I agree Mike - in reality, with The Ring being the way it is at present, it is basically a rebadged IBO - so throw in each of those and the WBO too, you have six belts, in my opinion five too many!