Which British Boxers have been Frank Warrens biggest Stooges over the years?

I don't know......

Lockett has those uppercuts

 

Maybe so, but they are getting what they want out of the sport in most cases. They picked Warren, they know what they are getting themselves into.

I think many would rather be a 'stooge' with money than a freelance with little.

 

But David Haye had the ability to get to the top that way. Rees, Lockett didn't have that option, whats the point of "freedom" if your career ends and you've not won titles and havn't made money?

 

David Haye would have made a lot more money with Warren. They'd have probably been able to get a good stadium in the UK to fight Wlad rather than having to rely on only Setanta's money for a payday, and he'd probably be on PPV even.

On the plus side he's got there on his own, on his own timescale.

That's the thing you've gotta weigh up, and as Gaz says you can only do the latter if you are good enough. Signing with Warren is far less risky all-round, you'll fulfil the economic side of things and the rest will come later.

 

I wonder where Hayes career would be now if he'd have gone with Warren? After 21 fights would he be in the position he is now (former cruiserweight champ and lined up for a fight with one of the Kilts)?

 

Probably not

But he'd be richer I suppose

His best payday (I think) is, tellingly, against a Warren fighter

And another thing to consider is that not every fighter has the nous to self-promote... as well as being good enough you need some acumen and some good people around you

 

And you have to have the personality/ charisma. Again not an option for Lockett and Rees.....

 

Breidis Prescott is is locked in his stooge cupboard, marked 'For Emergency Use Only'

 

When he looks back on his career, where Warren is concerned, he should think of the glass being half full rather than half empty.

 

Lets be honest had Calzaghe and Hatton being allowed to use there talent in the tradtional way. Ie... competitive matching, Britsh/Comm/Euro defences then a genuine world title fight they would have probable gone 30-3 (25Ko's) robbed twice in mandatory defences in germany and consigned to the dustbin.

Warren as infuriating as his match making can be knows how to build a product which can then be sold to an audience.

Guys like Mitchell, Pryce, Rees etc who aren't world beaters would prob be better served legacy wise somewhere else.

 

This is exactly right. I don't blame any boxer for wanting to make the money then chase legacy later on when they are financially secure. Let's face it, boxers (in general) are hardly the brightest tools in the box so are unlikely to make life changing amounts of money any other way than boxing. A boxer's money making career is very short. It can be ended in one punch and the source of income can dry up quicker than a Calzaghe combination. Calzaghe said right through his career that he wanted to make his family's future secure first and foremost. He achieved that a few years ago and took the Lacy fight for less than he would have got defending in Cardiff against a no-hoper. These are just facts of life and most well rounded humans would choose exactly the same path.

 

Like has already been said, warren doesn't have stooges, it's a two way thing.

James deGale's a millionaire, regardless of whether he fulfills his potential or not. Carl Froch couldn't even get a title defence against a world class fighter put on TV. Froch in particular is years (and pounds) behind where he would have been with Warren.