which champion of the past could...

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  1. shommel

    shommel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    easily walk in and win the title today in all the weight classes with no problems at all? are there any that could do this. ie whos whipping hopkins?
     
  2. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    co-sign.

    Please clarify post.

    Are you asking if there is guy (and we can choose from the whole history of the fight game) who could walk into a title fight with any of todays beltholders/divisional No.1's and win with ease????

    Of course there is; for most divisions there would be about 100 names you could pick from.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    In weight classes that are prety weak at present a whole sh1t load could do it.

    We might conclude for example that if Ezzard Charles was starting out at light heavyweight today he would have a prety bright future.

    In the stronger weight classes it gets more interesting.
     
  4. stonerose

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    i think he might mean is there a 105 pound 6 foot 5 fighter from the past who could march from straw weight to heavy winning everything in his wake ?
    just like bernard hopkins :huh
     
  5. mr. magoo

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    I'm not sure if I'm addressing the post properly, but here is my interpretation.

    Heavyweight - Mike Tyson circa 1987-88, could have cleaned house on today's heavyweights.

    Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield

    Lightheavyweight - Mike Spinks, would likely have dominated today's lightheavyweight picture, especially considering that most of its current participants are between 36-45 years of age, and came from lighter weight classes.

    Super middle - Difficult to say. The division is not that old, but I think a prime Roy Jones could have beaten all of today's super middles.

    Middleweight - Hagler would have had a better than average chance here.

    Jr. Middle - I'll go with Mike McCallum

    Welter - Simon Brown, Ray Leonard, or Henry Armstrong are good candidates.

    Jr. Welter - Julio Cesar Chaves, Aron Pryor and Oscar D. Are all worthy mentions

    Lightweight - Pernell Whitaker, Benny Leonard and a few others...

    I'll stop there......
     
  6. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think thats it.

    Didn't Georges Carpentier cover a lot of divisions over the span of his career.

    In the modern day I think Pacquiao started off as a straweight; in his next fight he faces DLH at Welterweight (quite a big spread as well).
     
  7. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    armstrong i would like to see against a more schooled defencive fighter. he would glide over the 126 to 135 i feel but 147 could be a big difference. beating barney ross was a good achiemvent but in th edays of 12 rounders armstrong would of walked away with a draw.

    i think robinson could go from 147 to 160 and maybe a title at 168. but there would be a ton of us saying how open his defence. he would have a about 3 losses.
     
  8. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    yeah carpentier was a featherweight when he was about 15 or so. cant remember the facts. but yeah he was. the wieghts arent there on boxrec but he was a sanctioned feather.



    sam langford could be put into the equasion. i just dont know how he would of faired with differents rulings.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    He'd start at 160 wouldn't he.
     
  10. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    i like a prime Duran. he gives anyone 130-154lbs problems. i would of really liked to of have seen a rematch with tommy or benitez. i think tommy beat him fairly, but he seemed to not give a **** vs. benitez. anyways, he always had that one punch ko power in the right.
     
  11. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Duran cleans up from light to middle quite easily elchiv...he would be a serious chance of at least grabbing a title at supermiddle aswell.
     
  12. BUDW

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    Salvador Sanchez,Ray Robinson,Henry Armsrong,Bob Foster,Monzon,Hagler,Duran,Pryor,Ali ,Foreman, to name a few.
     
  13. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roberto Duran would probably be the P4P #1 with ease if he was boxing today in his prime. He'd probably unify at 140.
     
  14. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I reckon at least mate.

    There is quite simply no fighter right now from 135-160 that Duran at his best couldnt beat.

    Especially now Bernard has left the building at middleweight so to speak.