Which chin better: Vitalys or Lewis'?

Yeah. Because watching something on a tiny you tube screen doesn't prove a lot. Hard to say means I haven't seen anything that convinces me one way or the other. I've seen worse ruled as KD's, and worse ruled as slips.

I'm sure the guy in the ring had a better view, and that's why he called it that. Posting tiny ****ing pictures on a webpage isn't going to change my mind.

It would be easy to enough to say..

"look at the frame Widdow posted, Vitlay was already falling before his leg got tangled".

I don't hate Vitlay at all. for the record, his chin is better than Lewis's. Vitlay has a good chin, and was a good fighter. So what?

 

You have a complex don't you? Why are you going through all of this nonsense? It is very simple. Have you even seen the fight? If so, then watching the fight, and then if you are too slow to see what everyone in the world, including the ref saw... then you can slow it down, and watch it again to see that A PUNCH DIDN'T EVEN LAND DIRECTLY BEFORE HE WENT DOWN.... and that he was pushed, and tripped over Sanders' leg. I know that you Klitschko haters are slower than most people on this earth, which is why I not only slowed it down... but I took a picture of a frame where you can clearly see the push, and the trip... yet to the world's amazement you morons are still too damn stupid to see it.

 

Widdow, I'll say it plain and simple for you. I really don't give a ****, OK?

I even sat there and watched it a few times again on your you tube link. And you know what? I saw Vitlay get hit hard about 10 seconds before.

I saw him back away furiously on shaky legs (not saying he was in serious trouble) - then a scuffle against the ropes with Vitlay going down.

If Sanders can push Vitlay like that, and send him to the canvas - then either Vitlays got **** balance, or was hurt, or was punched, or a combination of all of the above.


And you can **** right off with your condescending tone. You have form Widdow. You tried posting numerous pictures that "PROVED" Vitlays eye was torn open by a Lewis head butt.

You're the one with the complex Widdow. If you actually read all of a post, rather then frothing at the mouth when somebody doesn't agree with your blurry prints of a webpage, then I might give a **** what you think.

 

There is no question that Vitali's chin is better. However, one of the biggest boxing myths of all-time is Lennox having a weak chin. In fact, it is actually a great subject as it separates people who understand the fight game from the idiots. Mark it down....Lennox had a great chin. Not iron, not excellent, but great. He fought a ton of big punchers and only hit the canvas twice......less than Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Tyson, Holyfield, etc.....pretty much everyone but Vitali. And this is a fact and cannot be disputed.

 

Vitali has the better chin.

 

One of the dumbest threads I've ever seen, from ESB to IDontKnowBoxing.com.

Vitali is both a better fighter and has a superior chin to Lenny. Lenny won the 'cut lottery,' and got the second-easiest win of his career, behind McCall II.

The proper comparison is with Wlad. Unfortunately for Lenny and his fans, this comparison also favors the Klitshcko.

1. Lenny has been 1-punch KO'd twice; Wlad has never been 1-punch KO'd. Being susceptible to a one-punch KO is a good indication of a fragile chin.

2. Lenny has been counted out (ref standing over him while he's on the canvas), Wlad has never been counted out. Even in the butt-kicking he received from Sanders (which he was repeatedly put down), Wlad still finished on his feet and was TKO'd, not KO'd as Lewis was against Rahman. Wlad has ALWAYS gotten up from every single KD he has ever had, Lewis has not.

Two of Wlad's TKO's were due to exhaustion (Puritty, Brewster I). Only 1 was due to punches (Sanders), and he repeatedly got up from the hard-throwing lefty's hammering KD's. He finished the fight on his feet.

Both of Lewis' KO's were from punches. Both were 1-punch KO's. He was counted out once, and the other fight he was stopped by one punch IN THE SECOND ROUND. He got 'Zab Judah'd." Lewis has been rocked repeatedly by the likes of Briggs, Bruno, Mercer and others. His chin is as soft as a baby's ass. The reason he was able to become a viable contender/champion was because Manny Steward taught him how to clinch and properly use his height so that he could protect his china chin. And it worked. Now Manny is teaching Wlad - who has a slightly better chin than Len - the same things. If it worked for a lesser fighter than him, it should work for Wlad.

 

Firstly, what the hell is "chin legacy"?

Second, they didn't face the same punches from the same opponents so it is impossible to gauge.

Third, Why are you only counting "chin weakness" and not how fragile their body was generally? You don't have an agenda by any chance, do you? :think

:yep

 

No, it's a stupid idea because like "chin", "power" etc... there is no way to gauge and compare.

 

OH PLEASE

How come he has more heart? because he's black?

I'm sick of people saying the Klitschkos have no heart when it's obviously not true.

 

Exactly. VITLAY got caught with a few shots, tried to do the Klitschko shuffle a la WALDO against Brewster, and ended up on the canvas as a result of punches.

The more I watch that youtube thing the more it looks like a knockdown. Nice posting of proof, Window :nut :nut :nut

 

at the time you posted this it was almost 4am here in england, so much for scaring him away, i dont know about you but here in the UK we sleep.

 

because he came in without good shape or training, he always went into big fights with a well prepared strategy, this fight they took late and just hoped to get the early ko, it was just put pressure on him push him, all the usual Steward rhetoric. He was hit alot and still didnt go down or quit he came back after the bad 2nd rd and won the 3rd, 5th and 6th and vitali was the one who couldnt defend himself or punch back by the end!

 

Come on, its not soccer, you dont go down because someone touches you, if vitali wasnt hurt and shitting himself he wouldnt have lost his legs.

 

where's widdow maker now?? is he scared???, if he doesn't reply in the next 20 mins he is scared!