Which common boxing take/opinion present or past frustrates you the most?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RB1702, Jul 25, 2020.


  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    The notion that Jack Dempsey is an all-time great. He literally came about in the worst era ever, made a title defence every three years, went the distance with a middleweight and ducked his best contenders.

    Anyone who says Ezzard Charles was a featherfist. That means they're either ignorant or clueless.

    Anyone who says Canelo is one of the best Mexicans ever. He's not. Hell, he doesn't pass of as great with the amount of help he's had.

    People who say Wilder is the hardest puncher ever but can't even give me a top five.

    When someone uses a boxer's word as gospel. More time they have biases, agendas etc. and most of the time they're wrong anyway.

    There's loads more too.
     
  2. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    There's so much wrong with this statement, but it appears as though you are blissfully unaware.

    For a start, the word "only" shouldn't precede 15lbs. Do you really need someone to explain why? It's obvious as to why you think this, though. Your line of thinking stems from the fact that he is already obese and another 15lbs is nothing but a drop in the ocean. I think that says it all.

    Andy Ruiz, in that shape, would definitely struggle to land a glove on Malik Scott. There's no doubt about that. That's exactly how unremarkable Anthony Joshua's performance was.
     
  3. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Too many boxing 'officianados' calling all together far too many professional boxers 'bums'.

    Wilder being the heaviest puncher in Boxing history - who exactly has he knocked out again to stake this claim? Oh yeah, that's right.... Luis Ortizn't and Dominc 'saggy tits' Breazeale.

    People claiming that Nigel Benn cheated his way to victory against the G-Man..... He was practically fighting for HIS life at times in that fight.

    People who state that 'modern' training techniques make today's fighters leagues above the Greats of the past. How many of today's fighters could put in a fight resume equivalent to SRR's and at the 15 round championship distance? I'll just let that one hang there for a while.
     
  4. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep!
     
  5. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I kind of agree with this one but also think it applies to the other way around. There are many that also say that the old fighters would kill these new fighters. Really? Some yeah but most? In the words of Mike Tyson, fighters are supposed to get better, not worse...
     
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  6. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Making Golovkin Canelo 2 sound like like it was a BJS -LEMIEUX. Usyk-Gassiev schooling by ggg
    Had ggg win the firsts 8-4
    And the second one a toss up either way .


    People saying Ruiz is actually a cruiser due to his height .

    No geniuses its called a weight class ...not a height class.

    Fans making excuses for Pacs losses acting as if the excuses get rid of the defeats and hes undefeated .

    People saying Usyk is" too small " for the heavy weight division
    When hes 6'3 215 ...
    Not 5'9 185...


    People saying rocky isn't great ....


    Then also demanding a fight to happen.you wanting it to happen. Confidently picking your guy to win . explaining in detail how your guy will dominate one sided .

    Then your guy loses. Or its close then you justs
    Complain about how the other your fighter is pasts prime because he didnt live up to the hype you branded him to be going into the fight .

    Sounding like a sore loser making excuses after wards



    And mosts of all . if you dont agree with me thats fine . you have your opinion i have mine.
    But getting butthurt because i dont agree with you.
     
  7. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only one i agree with is fury was meant to be a cherrypick. Pretty much a cherry pick gone wrong. Ruiz would struggle to be in a top 5 heavyweights bearing in mind parker beat him. Whyte beat parker. Joshua beat him. Fury would beat him. As would wilder. I think ortiz would beat him as well. You go forward throwing at ortiz...he,ll hurt you. Povetkin would give him a great fight if not beat him. Usyk would probably beat him. A fit chisora would give him a better fight than joshua gave him the first time. The truth is ruiz is only great because he beat joshua. And thats because joshuas not all that special. His chin and recoveries not good enough. Guys would deal with ruiz much better without having to run for their lifes.

    The reality is joshua can give it out but he cant take it back quite the same. Hes spent most of his time beating people up....yet hes still be rocked more times than i can remember.
     
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  8. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mostly....on mike tyson and muhammad ali. Possibly roy jones junior as well.

    The one time the casuals got it right. The three of them we,re in a league of their own. Its almost like because the casuals seen it....the boxing hardcore go against them...to sort of try to prove their more knowledgable.

    The reality is tho...these three we,re in a league of their own. Special fighters. All three brought back down to earth...thats boxing for you tho. But these guys we,re special fighters. Ali lost something after the lay off....tyson chucked it away by living like an amatuer and roy just declined by jumping weight classes or maybe it was the drugs. Regardless tho special talents.
     
  9. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The idea that feinting, body-punching and other old-time skills are now dying out - along with all the great trainers!
     
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  10. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Calling a guy great while he's winning and then claiming he's past it as soon as he loses
     
  11. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "it's a poor era", "it's a weak division"

    Bring back hanging.
     
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  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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  13. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since SRR is (probably) the greatest fighter ever, all of today's boxers will naturally come up short when compared to him. So any such talk doesn't prove anything, relating to the strengths of different eras.

    I might as well claim, that most of today's champions are leagues above another fighter from Robinson's time, Freddie Mills - which, again, is neither here nor there, when comparing the two eras.
     
  14. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh look it’s the guy who can’t make up his one mind and contradicts himself constantly. Mate I can’t take your opinion seriously at all. You say one thing and then another. You were saying Joshua can’t take a decent punch at all and then you were saying he can but not without getting hurt. Then you were going about saying Pulev has a better chin than Joshua when Joshua already proved he took Wlad’s power far better than Pulev did because he never once got dropped by any of the left hooks while Pulev got dropped every time it landed. You’re opinion is just not credible on here.
     
  15. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Going from 268 lbs to 283 lbs isn’t gonna massively inhibit your performance. Joshua won because he was too quick and boxed at range to Ruiz. Ruiz even in shape will always have slow feet and he’s got a very small reach compared to Joshua. He would have lose if he was the same weight in the first fight and you know that deep down but don’t want to admit it.
     
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