Which country outside of the U.S. has the best top fighters?

It's obvious that those lot are going to be after USA.

Wouldn't it be more interesting to include other countries?

 

Well in that case the US can claim numerous fighters from Mexico and other countries,and Mexico can add Jose Napoloes and Sugar Ramos to their list of great fighters.

 

BUll **** no you cant After the first 7 i named from PR the rest are either prospects,Journeymen or bums

Name the fighters i have on the Mexican list that you say suck? Every single one of the ones i mentioned are ranked contenders or talented, every one of those guys has impressive wins,former champs or talented. Ill be waiting.

 

YEy i suppose but UK,Japan,Former Soviet Union,Phillipines are almost on par with Puerto Rico, and Cuba will be coming up soon but i dont think they are a world power on the pro level quite yet.

 

For example, i dont agree that abraham is a german, i think he is armenian but fighting out of germany. Your nationality rests with where you were born and raised.

What i will say is that for a very small island puerto rico have produced a hell of a lot of very good/great fighers, amazing really :good

 

Well, they do. When you go by ethnicity, like it seems you do, there wouldn't be much Americans up there. Or am I overlooking some Native American champs?

Those guys actually have German citizenship and gave up their Armenian one. Again my question: Who are you to say they are Armenian when they themselves decided oherwise?

 

I agree with all that you said:good

 

So, Arnold Schwarzenegger is Austrian and not American?

 

He's Austrian, American for convenience.

 

Your argument is weak they were born and raised in Armenia, but if you insist fine go ahead and claim them.

Difference with great american fighters is everyone of those Black,Latino,white americans that the US claims were all born and raised here. If i wer to go by your criteria Jose Napoloes and Sugar Ramos were Mexican or Kid Gavilan,Luis Rodriguez,Joel Casamayor,Yurikois Gamboa are americans.

 

HE might be the governor of my state but i dont consider him a real American, more like an adopted one:yep

 

No. Abraham learned everything what made him the successful boxer he is now in Germany. Did those guys do the same? Abraham also f*cking chose to be German. How can you go against hat?

 

But he is American, if you consider him a real one or an adopted one doesn't matter. Same with Abraham or Ghevor.

 

Abraham is American now?

:think

 

Reading comprehension ftw. :roll: