Which country outside of the U.S. has the best top fighters?

lmao. I hate Universum. Dzinziruk, Gevor, Golovkin, Erdei all unhappy with them. I'm glad Dzinziruk got away although i worry it took to long and he's too old now.

They have quite the knack for ****ing up/wasting young talent.

 

That is how i feel. Couldn't really see it any other way.

 

We don't disagree as much as you think. That is actually what I said the whole time. Abraham is German and Armenian.

But a question. Abraham lives half his life here - actually he lived only a few streets ago from where I live and I met him a few times on the street, nice guy, very approachable but has an aura around him that just makes you shiver - don't you think he is influenced by this?

 

I agree. They had a stacked card but they ****ed it up by feeding them bums and milking their paper belts. But the German audience learned and don't want to see Universum's bum cards anymore. :good

 

Didn't the channel that they had a TV deal with not renew it or something due to their bull****?

 

Yep. Think about all the Eastern Europeans who emigrate to Germany or the States just to make the most of themselves. America & Germany have the best sparring and can provide the best opportunities/training facilities.
An individual shouldn't be obliged to scarifice his national identity just so because he can wishes to further his career.
Naturalised Germans are more marketable than Eastern European beltholders (the Braehmer - Erdei example you used is evidence [although Braeher is of course ethnically German]); that is an economic reality.
Do you the Sauerlands would've sacrificed Valuev had he been an adopted German? I don't think so.

 

What do you mean?
Do you mean you get the impression he's at all times struggling to keep his aggressive side in check?

 

Where are you at Puertoriccane im waiting for you to pick apart my list:think Or is it cause you cant.

 

Yep due to fewer people watching their cards while Sauerland and K2 are setting audience records. The contract runs out in summer. They are back on the table but Universum will have to work hard to renew it. :good

We have adopted Valuev. Same with the Klitschkos or Chagaev. We don't have the kind nationalism you guys have. We only act national in team sports or events like the Olympic games - of course there is a minority which is nationalistic but well, there are fewer of them than non-Germans in Germany.

 

Not at all but you just feel that he has it in him. Never met a guy wih this aura. His brother lacks it. This description fits his brother though. That guy I wouldn't want to meet when he is drunk.

 

We have adopted Valuev. Same with the Klitschkos or Chagaev. We don't have the kind nationalism you guys have. We only act national in team sports or events like the Olympic games - of course there is a minority which is nationalistic but well, there are fewer of them than non-Germans in Germany. [/quote]

Why on earth would you want to do that for?
I really struggle to understand the German mentality sometimes.
You lot are strange ****ers.

 

Please, Klitchkos are Ukrainian!!!!!!!!!!!!They are Ukrainian patriots Vitali was in Ukrainian parliament

THey are not Germans!!!!!

 

Didn't Alex kick apparently kick Edison Miranda?
He does seem a tad unhinged.

 

Because we don't just like the fighters but the persons behind them. And Valuev is a great guy. Very humble and nice and he has some humour.

Yeah, he also was involved in a stabbing a few years ago. He's a bit crazy.

 

'A bit crazy'; that's a bit of an understatement isn't it?