Which current HWs are better punchers than Marciano?

This Galvatron fella was saying yesterday that Ike Ibeabuchi was out boxed by Chris Byrd. He hasn't seen any fights.

 

Yes he was lucky because Tillis was coming on strong at the end and Tyson was running out of steam. Stick to Tiddlywinks cos you know nothing about boxing moron.....

 

That's true generally. But Tyson landed enough.

Marciano had plenty of opponents stall and clinch too though. It's not as if everyone was foolish and tried to slug it out the whole fight.

Marciano probably wore 6 ounce, maybe 8 ounce gloves, no bigger.
Tyson might had worn thicker ones. Maybe 8 to 10.
This could be important factor.

 

Old time gloves have little padding in them ,ive been hit by those gloves i know . lol

Marciano gave up an average of 2 inches in height , Tyson 5 inches . We are also talking about athletic big men not stationary targets . Tyson k.od his opposition early ,had they had the ability to trade ,their would have been many busted up ,broken jaws . Take a look at Ruddock after 12 rnds, j will also add Tyson knocked Ruddock down with a jab ,he was a fierce puncher by a wide margin compared to Marciano in my book,many were imop. at the HW level .

 

Byrd was winning the fight before the k.o ......

"Byrd controlled the fight, with his elusive style from the opening bell.
At 208 pounds, Byrd was the smaller of the two - Ibeabuchi weighed in at 244 pounds - and used his speed around the ring. Ibeabuchi was frustrated early, failing to land punches and watching Byrd slip away off the ropes.
Byrd's elusiveness worked - at least through three rounds."

You also stated there was no size advantage yet Ike had a FOURTY FIVE pound advantage and it was actually a cut over Byrds eye that turned the tables ...lol

 

"I'll say it again, Tillis slugged it out with Tyson on many occasions in their bout. Go watch the fight again and come back at me, in fact Tyson is lucky it was a 10 rounder....." Wass


Serious question do you and this dino velvet guy watch fights together,both wrong always and both very uninformative to what ive read while being on here?

 

With the rubbish you spout I don't even have to ask you the question, I know......

 

We were at cross purposes then.

 

Bout Summary


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Tyson landed solid right hands to the body early in the opening round and connected with a right hook in the final seconds as Tillis moved, worked behind a jab, and landed decently well himself including a good right uppercut near the two-minute mark. Tyson landed a left hook after the bell to end Round 1. At the recommendation of his corner, Tyson tried to jab while closing distance and landed a good right 53 seconds into Round 2 that caused Tillis to hold. He too occasionally stuck Tillis with a right hook to the body. Tillis landed a left hook in the first half of the round and a good left uppercut to the body in the final minute. Tyson landed the heavier shots in Round 3 and caught Tillis with a combination, to which Tillis, who often TRADED PUNCHES, replied by EXCHANGING with flurries while against the ropes. Tillis landed well with the left hand in the opening minute of Round 4. In the final seconds of the round, Tillis lunged in with a left hand. Tyson dipped to his right, spun, and caught Tillis with a left hand that scored a flash knockdown sending Tillis to the mat. He was up at the count of three and was not hurt, but the knockdown cost Tillis what was his best round thus far in the fight. Tillis came out in Round 5 with added AGGRESSION and landed shots to the head of Tyson, who failed to throw punches on the inside. Tyson came on in the final minute of the round, with a pair of body shots that appeared to hurt Tillis and a flurry upstairs. Tillis moved well and worked on the outside in Round 6, while Tyson landed with a few body shots to close the round. Tillis outworked Tyson for much of Round 7, before Tyson came on in the latter part and opened a cut above Tillis's left eye with a right hand. The cut was handled well by Tillis's corner and did not affect him or bleed noticeably for the remainder of the bout. Neither man landed a punch of note in Round 8, as Tillis likely earned the round with output. Tillis continued to outwork Tyson in Round 9. He moved well and landed from the outside, as Tyson did very little offensively. Tillis controlled much of the tenth round, before Tyson came in the seconds. The two EXCHANGED as the bell rang with each man landing punches.




Stick with me kid and you might learn a thing or two.....

 

Tucker fought to survive, that's why he didnt take a lot of punishment.

• Phil Berger reported the following in the August 2, 1987, edition of the New York Times:

Boxing has an undisputed heavyweight champion, and he is Mike Tyson. Tyson hammered out a unanimous 12-round decision over Tony Tucker tonight at the Las Vegas Hilton Center. But it was not a vintage performance by the victor, who had a problem landing more than a single punch at a time. That was because Tucker, the International Boxing Federation champion, fought a survivalist's fight. Though he rattled Tyson's head with jarring right uppercuts and straight right leads early in the match, Tucker lost the snap in his punches after the fourth round and mostly fought to make it through the 12-round distance. He did last the distance. He circled and grabbed. He sidestepped Tyson's charges or deflected them by pushing Tyson with his gloves. Sometimes he neutralized his opponent by pressing Tyson's head down as the 21-year-old slugger came forward. But Tyson, the World Boxing Council-World Boxing Association champion, landed the big punches over the last two-thirds of the fight. Tucker came alive again only in the final round when he landed a thudding left hook against Tyson's head. All three judges voted for Tyson, with Phil Newman scoring it 119-111; Julio Roldan, 118-113, and Bill Graham, 116-112. There were no knockdowns. Tucker used the sort of tactics that have frustrated Iron Mike in previous bouts - against James (Bonecrusher) Smith last March and for a few rounds against Pinklon Thomas in May. But Tyson showed patience tonight, using his jab to establish his offense more than he had in the past when opponents grabbed and clinched excessively

 

Just as i suspected - a boxrec warrior . Cut n pasting off boxrec to form his argument

Only a fool troll newbie would argue Byrd controlled that fight. You obviously NEVER watched it. It was a complete one sided domination.
HBO gave Byrd ONE round. They were there. The only round he nicked was the first and that means absolutely nothing. Ali gave up the first round in the majority of his fights.
Ike beat that guy senseless.

I was talking about height advantage dummy since you kept harping on about Vitali's size. Ike didn't have Vitali's size when he totally destroyed him.
Byrd made an absolute clown out of Vitali.

 

I didn't have to paste anything that is what happened I could have easily posted the fight itself but you have beer goggles so why bother? Clearly Byrd was elusive and out pointing him ,he lost round 5 obviously ,he was k.o'd.

Aalso they don't have height classes when someone referances size it s of weight...hence weight classes...dummy. lol

 

It doesn't matter what a blind writer writes...clearly tillis won no more than two rounds. If you knew anything about the fight you would also know it was scoredon a different system that tallied punch counts not rounds per winning meaning Tysons had some 8/10 rounders there, only 9/10 rounds were allowed to be scored not 8/10 ones...which makes the fight lopsided....only a fool would think it was close.lol

The fight was treated like the fight after a mere sparring session.

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You pasted it off boxrec. Are you saying YOU wrote the article back in 1999?

Go ahead and post the fight . Ike won every round bar the first. You also said he only lost because he got arrogant
Ive seen Kturds use every excuse under the sun to justify Byrd getting battered by Ike. They can't handle the fact a 90's era guy destroyed him and both brothers couldn't.
Wlad could only get the stoppage when Byrd was shot to absolute bits years later and it still took him LONGER than Ibeauchi

 

I didn't write anything why I quoted it,are you this stupid? I guess so because others have said it as well, im guessing you are the kick the can around here!