Which division is greater? Middleweight or Heavyweight?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rubber Glove Sandwich, Aug 25, 2025 at 7:47 PM.


Which is greater?

  1. Middleweight

    12 vote(s)
    66.7%

  2. Heavyweight

    5 vote(s)
    27.8%

  3. Unsure

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    Which division has more p4p depth? Is it more impressive to be a top 10 middleweight or a top 10 heavyweight.?
     
    Rubber Glove Sandwich, Aug 25, 2025 at 7:47 PM
    Rubber Glove Sandwich, Aug 25, 2025 at 7:47 PM
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  2. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Middleweight for sure good mix of fighters with size and technical skill along with some of the most skilled fighters ever. Can't really say the same for HW.
     
    themaster458, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:11 PM
    themaster458, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:11 PM
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  3. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Middleweight stomps!
     
    Journeyman92, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:19 PM
    Journeyman92, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:19 PM
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  4. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    I should've made the poll for it to allow how close you think it is. For example "Heavyweight and it's not close, Heavyweight but it's close, etc"

    Oh well. Anyone who has voted please state how close you think it is or how hard it was to decide.
     
    Rubber Glove Sandwich, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:25 PM
    Rubber Glove Sandwich, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:25 PM
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  5. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    I think a big part of the love of 160lbs for me is it’s got the great 147lbers coming up to rumble and the 160lbers usually going for a 168-175lbs campaign… I don’t think it’s so much just the full time residents but all the potential.

    EDIT: Also being roughly around the average size of most in-shape guys it has one of the highest populations of any weight class if I’m not mistaken? So it typically makes it a real meat grinder / blood bath division. (in the same day weigh in era)
     
    Journeyman92, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:29 PM
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  6. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    I think even if you just limit the middleweights to middleweight I still think it's probably stronger. This might be a wild take but I feel like Robinson's middleweight career is better than Ali or Louis. This is a quick off the dome take I haven't thought much about it so I could be open to changing my mind.
     
    Rubber Glove Sandwich, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:34 PM
    Rubber Glove Sandwich, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:34 PM
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  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    I could definitely see that RGS, I’d stand on it.
     
    Journeyman92, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:37 PM
    Journeyman92, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:37 PM
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  8. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    160s had Emile Griffith

    Need i say more?
     
    Mandela2039, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:38 PM
    Mandela2039, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:38 PM
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Middle easily has more genuine greats, but there is something special about the heavies, whether the forum wants to admit it or not.
     
    catchwtboxing, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:40 PM
    catchwtboxing, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:40 PM
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  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    No, no that’s enough.
     
    Journeyman92, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:43 PM
    Journeyman92, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:43 PM
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  11. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Middleweight.

    Of the original eight, Heavy actually has a good argument as the weakest overall. The absolutely stratospheric difference in talent between the few top active fighters compared to the rest of the division is something you don't see in any of the others.
     
    roughdiamond, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:46 PM
    roughdiamond, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:46 PM
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  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Agreed RD - Louis and Tyson to me are the only two at the weight I could see having success lower down the totem pole with there style…
     
    Journeyman92, Aug 25, 2025 at 8:54 PM
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  13. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The list of HW champions going back to 686BC was never attempted at any other weight because there is nothing else that goes back beyond the 1880s.

    The best and most I could do is tell you about the claims just before then and the small men who did well regardless just before that.
     
    GlaukosTheHammer, Aug 26, 2025 at 5:39 AM
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  14. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    The MW division may have a greater number of more-skilled fighters, but they HW division is, was, and always will be, the marquee division.

    The HW champion of the world holds a unique position in all of boxing.
     
    cuchulain, Aug 26, 2025 at 7:44 AM
    cuchulain, Aug 26, 2025 at 7:44 AM
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  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Gotta be middleweight. You had a great mix of permanent and transient members of that class including:
    - Robinson
    - Monzon
    - Hagler
    - Jones
    - Hopkins
    - Toney
    And numerous others
     
    mr. magoo, Aug 26, 2025 at 8:01 AM
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