Which "Draw" Is The Most Wrong.

Whitaker is not popular, only the hardcore remember him, and quite a few of them dislike his boring style. He is hardcore boxing's Marmite.

 

He sure as hell is popular here:yep There are flocks of Sweet Peetards here. I definitely rate him as an elite ATG, and i he was brilliant to watch at times but after a few rounds hed get boring,and most people back then thought he was boring.
Ive had people on this forum question what kind of boxing fan i was for saying he was boring

 

Whitaker would wow you with his evasiveness ... but no one really paid to watch him fight his ppv numbers sucked when he did not fight marquis talent. He did not have many quality wins either against top talent as he waited too long to fight them.

 

Lewis-Holyfield, the reason being that Nelson and Chavez at least opened up and actually tried to win rounds. Holy just sat on the ropes from the 3rd round onward and just covered up. Hell, the judges even admitted afterward that they scored it wrong! That's how freakin' bad it was.

 

I think it's impossible, even for a deluded Holyfield nuthugger, to suggest he deserved a draw.

You can probably find a few deluded Chavez and Nelson nuthuggers who think the Pea and Fenech fights were draws.

Giving them an overall order of wrongness though:

1. Lewis-Holyfield I
2. Fenech-Nelson I
3. Whitaker-Chavez

 

Im a big Holyfield fan, and i think Lewis is OVERRATED and chinny.
But i will concede that Lewis deserved this by alot 117-111. Second fight i had it pretty close Lewis by 1 or 2 points. Holy in his prime:huh Wouldnt have been no controversy he would have kod Lewis in the late rounds.

 

You're too generous, though 4 is a stretch if you consider round 12. It's not even close, worst is 8-4 by Whitaker. I have it 10 rounds to 2.

 

I agree Lewis is overrated, but Holyfield, even in his heavyweight prime, was still up and down. I can see him losing to Lewis easily if guys like Bowe and Moorer could hurt him.

 

Holyfield was fighting in his home country; although I considered Lewis champ, Holyfield was considered the dominant champion (two belts to one) for the fight; Lewis fought a cautious fight, lacking confidence in a fight he should of dominated; and although IMO he won, it was close-ish.

So as the away fighter, challenging the defending champ, I can see why Evander escaped with a draw.

Up until that fight, the unwritten rule of boxing was the challenger had to win convincingly if fighting in the champions backyard, any benefit of any doubt should go to the champ (which is how I think it should always be, too many challengers win titles now by too close a decision, but back to subject, that rant is for another thread).

There was nothing fishy about the decision and if I was an American tax payer I would of been fuming that the government wasted money investigating the fight.

 

If they fight 3 times Holy wins 2. If they fight twice they split em. Lewis probable gets the first fight even against a prime holyfield but not so decisive.

 

Americans were as angry about the decision as anyone.

 

Why 'should' he have dominated it? What kind of a bull**** assumption is that?

All he needed to do was outpoint him, which he did for 9 rounds, clearly, evidently to anyone without pre-conceived irrelevant standards like what "should" have been the case being thrown in.

The fact that Lewis fought a cautious fight is irrelevant. Lewis fought a WINNING fight, and that's all that matters.

 

Prime Lewis was never Ko'd.

Holyfield's HW prime record for Ko's
90 (Douglas) - 93 (Bowe)

F-7 W-6 L-1 KO's-2

Lewis was only ever stopped early and hard, I don't see it happening myself.

 

No, you are using a matter of fact statement, you know full well boxing is much more subjective than that.

You have to be aware of the situation you are in and what is needed to win.

Lewis could of won much more decisively (and that is without hindsight).

For an intelligent man, who generally played boxing politics very well, Lennox misjudged the fight. Maybe that was down to a little self doubt, as he had never met anyone quite as good as Holyfield going in, but whatever, it was a misjudgement by Lennox.

 

Yes, I was angry when Sugarboy was robbed against Nigel Benn (first fight), but I was not prepared to see my government waste potentially Millions of pounds investigating why it happened.