Which draw was worse - Chavez/Pea or Canelo/Triple G

Chavez-Pea. No comparison.

 

7-5 Golovkin

 

Well, i scored them both 8-4 to Whitaker and Golovkin respectively but Canelo/GGG had many more close rounds overall so i'd say Whitaker/Chavez

 

If you give all even remotely close rds to Chavez you still end up with something like 8-4 or 7-5 in favor of Pea. In Canelo-GGG almost all rds were remotely close.

I can understand the ones (and they are admittedly in the vast majority) who feel that GGG should have won account of his work rate and aggressiveness. But can there be any doubt that Canelo landed the majority of the best punches, the majority of the damaging punches?

Now, could anyone say that Chavez landed better punches than Pea? I mean, there are already several threads lauding how extremely well GGG:s chin stood up to Canelo's punches. Pea's chin, on the other hand, wasn't remotely tested by Chavez.

I am really amazed by this comparison. For me, a much more apt comparison to GGG-Canelo would be Hagler-Leonard.

 

Yes, I would doubt that.
I can't remember Golovkin taking much of a backward step even when caught flush a couple of times, he just kept coming.
Alvarez was being driven back and look weary at several points.

I think both of them were good defensively and most punches were blocked anyway.

 

That wasn't a draw though.
Hagler was smacked with the "L".
Different crime.

 

Both were fights that could have gone to either man, though. There's just no honest and sane way to find half the rds for Chavez, imo.

 

Both were very bad decisions. 8-4 is a fair scorecard for both.

A few thoughts:

GGG vs Canelo was a better fight to watch.

The Judging in Whitaker/Chavez was 115-113, 115-115 and 115-115. Better than the scorecards than GGG vs Canelo as judge Adelaide Byrd absurdly scoring it for Canelo 118-110, which to me makes it a clear robbery as no one else on earth had it 118-110! This was perhaps the worst score card of all time in a major fight,

Based on Bryd's score card, GGG vs Canelo was worst decision.

Either way I think GGG vs Canelo is the worst draw since Whitaker vs Chavez.

 

Canelo retreated, but I didn't see him driven back from a flush punch either. Golovkin missed and stumbled at one point after being hit flush by Canelo. That's actually the most I saw any of them react as a direct consequence of being hit, from memory. Neither seemed hurt at any point, though.

I also don't see any threads about how amazing Canelo's chin was in the fight, even though Golovkin is the harder puncher. That's because Canelo tested Golovkin's chin more with cleaner punches. He also landed some pretty good body shots, which GGG hardly did.

 

I don't think there's any sane way to give it to Alvarez. I don't think a 114-114 draw was too bad though, but then I've said the same thing about Holyfield-Lewis and even Whitaker-Chavez.
(Whitaker-Chavez is slightly worse maybe though.)
Draws usually don't really bother me too much (in fights without any severe beatings going down) ...... but 118-110 scores to the wrong man do trouble me, and that goes for Hagler-Leonard too.
It's the way the draw is arrived at. (Lewis-Holyfield had a horrible card for Holyfield too, not wide but bad anyway).

I've always scored the Hagler-Leonard fight for Hagler, close but clear. So, for me, a draw would be ample generous to SRL. A draw I'd have no problem with but I think Hagler won that fight.

 

How did you score the fight ?

 

Golovkin took a few shots and kept coming. That's the opposite of a "damaging punch". He walked right through a few.

Mostly they were blocking and slipping punches.