Which Era was the Strongest?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Yes, you would need to figure out both.
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

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  3. mr. magoo

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    Let's not forget Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, Jimmy Young and Neon Leon. :good
     
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  4. mcvey

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    I think the war disrupted a lot of fighters careers so I wouldnt say the 40s was the best,the 20s were hard to beat imo.You had champions like Jack Dempsey,Jack Dillon,Harry Greb,Mickey Walker,Benny Leonard,Tony Canzoneri,Pete Herman ,and Jimmy Wilde.Quite a list! Boxing was in its Golden Age,there was less competition from other sports Basketball wasnt big ,apart from Baseball and American Football,and of course Horse Racing , Boxing had few rivals in the states,Tv which eventually killed boxings small arenas ,wasnt invented,big gates were the norm.Yes the 20s for me.
     
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  5. The Kurgan

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    Don't be silly- Jimmy Young wasn't a good boxer.
     
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  6. Little_Mac

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  7. Luigi1985

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  8. frankwornank

    frankwornank Active Member Full Member

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    :yikes The very top 2 or three fighters in their respective divisions are as good now as in any era. The real difference is that in past era's for example, the 50's, you had divisions where they were 10 deep with talent. Just look at the top ten middleweights of the 50's. They were all outstanding.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    Broadly speaking, this is my position.

    Of course, these fighters are now spread over three divisions - 154, 160, 168. The individual divisions may be the weaker for it, but in terms of great fighters, I see no real differnce between the 2000's and the 1940's.
     
    McGrain, Sep 22, 2007
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  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Interesting. What you're saying is that there's a maximum quality that any era is capable of producing--that the guys on the upper end of the bell curve are pretty much the same in every talent pool, regardless of the pool's size (after a certain point).

    Thus:

    Society A

    100 people produce 10 "super athletes"

    Society B

    1,000 people produce 100 "super athletes"




    But the "super athletes" in society A and society B are both equally good. The only limit is that you need at least 10 people to produce a "super-athlete", which is why boxing in very small countries improved as population expanded.
     
    cross_trainer, Sep 22, 2007
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  11. McGrain

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    For me i'd leave the numbers alone, as it's obviously not the case - but as far as our sport goes, this outlines my position beautifully.
     
    McGrain, Sep 22, 2007
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