Which fight happens first: Ward-Kovalev or GGG-Canelo/Cotto winner?

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  1. QuadrupleG

    QuadrupleG MAZAFAKA Full Member

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    The correct option is missing. Neither of the fights will happen, because Cotto, Canelo and Ward are cowards.
     
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  4. arve lie

    arve lie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would not be surprised if Canelo jumps over MW and going for SMW. But in the end he might take the Golovkin fight.
     
  5. QuadrupleG

    QuadrupleG MAZAFAKA Full Member

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    After 3 warmups at LHW, Ward will decide that SMW suites him better, and he will need another 3 warmups before fighting a SMW champion. By that time, it will be 2020-2022.
     
  6. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Ward is fighting on Canelo's undercard already! :deal
     
  7. drenlou

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    Don't you just love it when Turds TRY to be funny... If I was this turd I wouldn't quit my day job.:-(
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't think I'm overrating him at all.

    I would absolutely favor him against anyone currently competing at middleweight. I'm not saying no one at middleweight can beat him - but I haven't seen enough from anyone else that indicates that's likely to me.

    I also maintain, however, that Canelo is almost certainly not the man to do so.

    Canelo brings nothing to the table that's superior to anything Golovkin has, and that goes for better technique, superior stamina, better control of range, more consistent pacing, better overall output, superior punching variety, better defense, faster hands, better footwork, greater durability, quicker feet, better at setting traps, superior jab, more determination, and a much higher ring IQ.

    All of that before we even delve into the vast power discrepancy.

    Could I be wrong about GGG? But of course I can!

    In this instance, however, I think my views reflect the large majority of fans. Ergo, I do not believe for one second that I am overrating him - especially with regards to a potential showdown with Canelo which I see being a far bigger mismatch than what he had with Lemieux.

    :smoke
     
  9. drenlou

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    Canelo is a far better combination puncher then GGG. So that's something that he does better then GGG imo.
     
  10. Rumsfeld

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    I disagree. I'm definitely not seeing that.

    But even if what you say is true, Canelo's punch out definitely leaves something to be desired and he only seems explosive in spurts with large lulls in between - so even if I agreed with you (which I honestly don't), I think that is offset by the facts that he has (A) regularly showed evidence of getting winded and needing a breather, and (B) is only explosive in spurts.

    I might be willing to agree that Canelo is more apt to shoot off more punches once he begins a flurry with greater regularity, and that he might fire them off more quickly when throwing in bunches - but to me, that in no way, shape, or form makes him a "better" combination puncher.

    I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that GGG is more efficient at delivering effective combinations, even if he is more deliberate in his output and, more importantly, his timing and placement.

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  11. drenlou

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    You think so. I don't see GGG throwing a 4-2 combination ever, and that's a hard combination to master.. only other guy I see throwing combinations like Canelo are JMM, and chocolito. GGG seems really basic in his punch variety to me.:smoke He reminds me a lot of Kostya Tyszu just not as polished.
     
  12. Ol' Bub

    Ol' Bub Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, bro.
    When Andre Ward signs a contract, that sh*t is good as gold
    He would never sign a contract and then try to get out of it...:rofl