Which Fight Made The Following ATG's

I think with Manny it might be when he sat Morales down and made him stay down.

Saying that, that was more of a moment. Like "this guy is something!". Where you could argue that it was Manny's "Mexicutioner" run that cemented his status as an ATG.

 

Sugar Ray Robinson - Jake LaMotta V
Muhammad Ali - Joe Frazier I
Roberto Duran - Sugar Ray Leonard I
Sugar Ray Leonard - Thomas Hearns I
Tommy Hearns - Roberto Duran
Marvin Hagler - Thomas Hearns
Carlos Monzon - Rodrigo Valdez II
Bernard Hopkins - Tito Trinadad
Roy Jones Jr - James Toney
Bob Foster - **** Tiger
Julio Cesar Chavez Sr - Meldrick Taylor I
Pernell Whitaker - Azumah Nelson
Lennox Lewis - Evander Hollyfield I
Mike Tyson - Michael Spinks
Evander Hollyfield - Mike Tyson I
Manny Pacquiao - Erik Morales II
Floyd Mayweather Jr - Oscar De La Hoya

 

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Sugar Ray Robinson - TKO 13 Jake LaMotta
Muhammad Ali - KO 8 George Foreman
Roberto Duran - KO 12 Esteban DeJesus
Sugar Ray Leonard - TKO 14 Tommy Hearns
Tommy Hearns - KO 2 Roberto Duran
Marvin Hagler - KO 3 Tommy Hearns
Carlos Monzon - W15 Bennie Briscoe/W15 Rodrigo Valdez ll
Bernard Hopkins - TKO 12 Felix Trinidad
Roy Jones Jr - W12 James Toney
Bob Foster - KO 4 Richard Ihetu
Julio Cesar Chavez Sr - TKO 11 Edwin Rosario
Pernell Whitaker - D12 Julio Cesar Chavez
Lennox Lewis - KO 4 Hasim Rahman
Mike Tyson - KO 2 Trevor Berbick
Evander Hollyfield - TKO 11 Mike Tyson
Manny Pacquiao - TKO 9 Marco Antonio Barrera
Floyd Mayweather Jr - W12 Oscar De La Hoya

 

Good list. I think I might put Cleveland Williams for Ali, not that it was a good opponent, but it was clear that Ali was a great fighter. Also, Holyfield was ATG after Bowe Ii or possibly Douglas considering the cruiser resume.

 

Sugar Ray Robinson - Joey Maxim
Muhammad Ali - Joe Fraier III
Roberto Duran - Sugar Ray Leonard I
Sugar Ray Leonard - Roberto Duran II
Tommy Hearns - Not an ATG
Marvin Hagler - Not an ATG
Carlos Monzon - Not an ATG
Bernard Hopkins - I don't think it was a certain fight, I think it was his whole career along with the fact that he could stay around even at 50.
Roy Jones Jr - Whole Career (He could end the fight with 1 punch)
Bob Foster - Not an ATG
Julio Cesar Chavez Sr - Whole Career
Pernell Whitaker - Julio Cesar Chavez Sr
Lennox Lewis - Vitali Klitschko
Mike Tyson - Not an ATG
Evander Hollyfield - Not an ATG
Manny Pacquiao - Not an ATG
Floyd Mayweather Jr - Not an ATG

 

I agree.
Bowe 2 put him in a select club. Only Patterson and Ali before him had regained the real HW title.
He actually proved a hell of a lot in Bowe 1 from where I was sitting.

 

Which fight would you say it was then?

 

Sugar Ray Robinson - Joey Maxim
Muhammad Ali - George Foreman
Roberto Duran - SLR 1
Sugar Ray Leonard - Tommy Hearns
Tommy Hearns - Roberto Duran
Marvin Hagler - Tommy Hearns
Carlos Monzon - Rodrigo Valdez ll
Bernard Hopkins - Felix Trinidad
Roy Jones Jr - James Toney
Bob Foster - **** Tiger
Julio Cesar Chavez Sr - Edwin Rosario
Pernell Whitaker - Julio Cesar Chavez
Lennox Lewis - Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson - Michael Spinks
Evander Holyfield - Mike Tyson
Manny Pacquiao - Marco Antonio Barrera
Floyd Mayweather Jr - Oscar De La Hoya

 

Tommy Hearns was a natural Middleweight or Jr. Middle. He left 147 at like 22 years old.

He just grew into his natural frame.

 

Foster, Hagler, Monzon, Holyfield, Tyson, Pacquiao not ATG but Lewis is and qualifies because he won on a cut in a fight he may well have lost if it went longer? GTFO

 

TKO - 6.

Get over it, stupid.

 

You honestly want to give credit to Pac, for beating a shot to bits Morales? What you should seriously consider is giving credit to a semi shot Erik for beating the prime Pacman in their first encounter.

 

I'm not saying Lewis isn't an ATG, I am just saying these other guys are too, and the Vitali fight wasn't Lewis's best performance or most significant victory.

 

ATG's are fighters in the Top 10 p4p all time. Everyone else is just exremely talented.

Foster had a glass chin and didn't beat anyone great.

Hagler I was mixed about, he had a basic style but had a great jab and the 2nd greatest chin in boxing history. He would be outpointed by alot of fighters and barely beat Duran.

Monzon beat past prime Emile Griffith and waay past prime Jose Napoles. His resume was pretty weak and consisted of a bunch of nobodies.

Holyfield got schooled by James Toney and was on HGH so he is immediately disqualified.

Tyson got stopped too many times and didn't beat any great fighters in their prime.

Pacquiao isn't on the list because I don't consider anyone from the last 15 years due to the amount of PED usage in the sport.

GTFO