Which fight today would add most to Mayweather's legacy?

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  1. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Or can his legacy even be improved at this point?
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Golovkin :happy
     
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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    At his age, and at this stage, there isn't much he could do. Beating the winner of Cotto-Canelo probably does the most when considering financials alongside the legacy factor of becoming lineal middleweight champion, but since he already dominated those 2, I'm not sure it does as much as it would have had he not already soundly beaten both.

    But Floyd is largely at a lose-lose point with a lot of potential opponents. GGG for example. A win over him at 154 would be largely discredited in the same light Ward's victory against Dawson is discredited, but it would be even worse because Golovkin lacks the credentials Dawson had going into the Ward bout. So GGG would be written off as a weight drained "bum" who never beat anyone better than (take your pick - Murray, is his best win in my view). And if Golovkin beat Floyd, a loss at this point would be more damaging to Floyd's legacy than any potential victory against anyone 160 or lower.

    I guess if enough people buy into the Pac injury con, a win against "healthy" Pac could be a choice as well.

    But at the end of the day, what makes the most sense for Floyd is targeting one of the big 3 cash cows whom he already beat comfortably.

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  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    golovkin, no doubt. a win at 160 (floyd can weigh what he wants) is the stuff legends are made of.
     
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  5. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Cotto-Alvarez winner is the biggest fight from a financial and legacy standpoint, great fighters rematch all the time half of those have been less competitive than May-Cotto or Alvarez I.

    Beating the Lineal and Legitimate MW Champ does more than any other fight second would of been Brook for Undisputed WW Champ if the WBO didn't strip him.
     
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  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Agreed with everything you said, except I don't remember too many fights that were less competitive than Mayweather-Alvarez. That was a textbook one-sided exhibition if ever there was one.

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  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Wladimir Klitschko.
     
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  8. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's all subjective I thought Alvarez won anywhere from 2-4 reds and Cotto 3. Canelos bodywork and activity edged a few rounds to me.

    Both were more competitive than the Pacquiao fight and people want a rematch to that. I don't understand how Mayweather is the only great fighter who gets bashed for potentially rematching another great fighter on a streak.
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

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    (In my best Leonard Nimoy voice)

    "FASCINATING."

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  10. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd rather see Pacquiao rematch Cotto.

    Mayweather rematches don't appeal to me because I know doing better against him a second time is slim to none. You're more likely to do much, much worse. I see all three fights being wider than their first. Canelo couldn't get much wider though:lol:
     
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  11. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather is slowing down and the winner of there fight would be coming into a stride my argument for both.

    Cotto should he win would be coming off probably his best victory, a lot of people are questioning his MW run based off Geale and Martinez so him beating Alvarez would prove its the real deal two HOFer possibly two ATGs going at it.

    For Alvarez they say he was to green and drained well it would be three years later Alvarez has shown imo in the Lara fight he learned from the Mayweather fight attack the body when the target is moving. Wins over Angulo, Lara, Kirkland, & Cotto since their original bout that's also a huge matchup.

    Mayweather-Pacquiao and Cotto-Canelo are/were the two biggest and best matches to be made in boxing the winners of each respective match going head to head would naturally be the next step.

    I'm not big on Cw but at 156+ I'd def be interested don't see why not.
     
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  13. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You'd be surprised just off the top of my head regarding Mayweather I had him winning both Castillo fights had Castillo II closer, thought Maidana I could be argued a draw, along with Alvarez winning 2-4 rounds. **** I thought Garcia dominated Matthysse and Bradley arguably beat Pac in fight I and got a draw fight II
     
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  14. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Mayweather would go beyond 154. He might get them to come down to 153. Who knows. Money talks. There'd be a cw though, for sure. Lol
     
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  15. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If a rematch came off there's no doubt it would be above JMW or else what's the point? And even though I'm not a big fans of catch weight for the MW title that is nothing new. Didn't Martinez and Cotto win there titles at Catchweights also Hopkins unified 4 MW Titles at a Cw vs Hoya.

    I'm not big on it but it is what it is.
     
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