Which fight would you rather see? Silva vs GSP or Liddell

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by The Mighty One, Nov 21, 2008.


  1. Cameron

    Cameron Active Member Full Member

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    ya ok an fighting against silva i think he is a better wrestler. silva isnt a good wrestler and gsp is more explosive. did you see chucks take down on wand it was slow as ****. if it werent for wand having no takedown defence or if it were anyone else he wouldnt have gotten that takedown. i think gsp would have a better chance at wrestling silva also due to cardio which we know chuck dosnt have. wrestling wise gsp is just a much bigger threat than chuck would be.
     
  2. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    GSP would have better chance at taking Silva down and holding him there, for 5 rounds, than Chuck, in my opinion.
     
  3. Cameron

    Cameron Active Member Full Member

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    ^ thats what im saying
     
  4. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not just that GSP has what it takes to get inside on Silva to secure a takedown because of GSPs footwork and fine jab. Liddell wont be able to get inside like Cameron pointed out his takedowns are slow and then you got his striking which is to damn sloppy and he cant fight well going forward hes to easy to counter when he does.
     
  5. Cameron

    Cameron Active Member Full Member

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    thats my point exactly the guy is over the hill and didnt evolve with the sport. he hasnt changed at all and clearly his style just isnt cutting it anymore. i would like to go out and say that if gsp stays standing with silva for any extended time he would get koed he has a suspect chin and silva has the reach and striking to get a clean ko on him. for gsp to win he would have to take him down and grind out and ud or late fight gnp win.
     
  6. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thats exactly how I feel but I think GSPs striking is good enough and enough of a threat to Silva to where Silva make have to keep thinking a bit and GSP could probablly hold his own long enough to get inside and get the fight where he needs it to go. Hes not going to KO him or outstrike in an entire fight but he might be able to do just enough to get where he needs it to go.

    Your right about Chuck he has never improved his game. He got to a certain point say in the early part of this decade and it never developed sure he was doing great still in 06 basically the fighter of the year that year but now hes figured out 100 percent there was always signs off it but now its very clear how to go about him and it almost looks easy which is crazy. If im not mistaking isnt Chuck still a Purple Belt ? Not thats bad but hes been training long enough to be higher then that I really dont think he has much of a Jiu-Jitsu game same with his takedowns im not sure hes trained much of either in the past decade. Just purely his stepping back giving an angle and throwing right hands or just sprawling. The man has never even took the time to tighten up his striking atleast alittle bit I mean the way he got countered and KTFO agianst Rampage 2nd time around and Rashad should not be happening to a elite fighter like that. People should not be throwing hooks to the body as far away as he did vs Rampage and arm punches for uppercuts leaving his chin dangiling out like he did vs Rashad.
     
  7. Cameron

    Cameron Active Member Full Member

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    oh dont get me wrong i think gsp can hold his own standing and can use his striking well enough to get on the inside and not get rich franklined but i do think that he cant get drawn into a long standing exchange. he needs to stick and move in and out and in and takedown. in a 5 roundeder if he stays standing for too long silva has just been too good and i dont want to see him, my hero get koed. gsp i think would take the fight ud after getting mad takedowns and holding top position and gnp all day.


    chuck has never been a technical striker the telographed right upercut with no set up against rashad showed that. i heard he has a purple belt as well but i dont see anysigns of that. still your right he never changed and its like the blue print to beat him is clear and easy. sad to see a guy go from feared to lackluster and washed up so fast. just goes to show how fast this sport is moving and how you have to be on the cutting edge and willing to change your style.
     
  8. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    I dont know why Chuck dont kick anymore, in his prime, he was, and that was effective. Not anymore
     
  9. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dan Henderson can't hold Silva down for 5 rounds, GSP can't, end of story.

    At least Liddell brings the different dimension of more natural weight. He still wouldn't win, just lookin' for an angle of interst here...
     
  10. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GSP, that fight means something. Liddell would be a fight I would watch, but in the end he is still just a good LHW, not a champion or even real contender at this point.
     
  11. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Dan Henderson downfall's was his gameplan, he tried to strike too much in the second round, his ego made him lose in the second round. If there was a rematch, Hendo wouldnt try to stand toe to toe with Silva.
    GSP is a master at following gameplan, and Hendo had no problem to hold Silva down in the first round. I don't know if GSP could hold him down there 5 round, I dont know, but what I know, is that GSP wont let his ego and try to stand with Silva, cause he know he would get knocked out. But like jimmie said, GSP has enough skill offensivly and defensivly, on his feet, just enough to prepare his takedown.
    the different dimension of more natural weight, with Liddell, would change nothing, he is sloppy, and is gonna get caught easily in the first round. Irvin was big and powerfull, yeah, but his slopiness on that kick, killed him. Liddell still didnt learn after Rampage 2, like he didnt learn for vs Rashad. He wont change his style of fight in one day.
     
  12. Cameron

    Cameron Active Member Full Member

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    dan would have easily if he had taken him down in the second round. in the first round he did easy. also gsp is still more explosive than dan. dan gets hit takedowns from the clinch. meaning he needs to get close leaving him open to strikes. gsp shoots meaning hes only open to counter knees. i think gsp has a way better chance than chuck. end of story.