Which fighter got ruined most in their first defeat?

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Everything everybody is saying is good, from Hamed, Hatton, Cotto, Vargas. However, it really is quite clearly Jermain Taylor (recent years). If Calderon loses in his upcoming comebacks to get a title again, we could see him up here (but I'd fancy he'll win if he suits em up again).

 

headache, dizziness, pressure in the head, ringing in the ears, confusion, etc etc - this is what all fighters experience when they get stuck dead on their chin and they're put on ***** street the way vargas was. Its a concussion - thats what people fail to see with boxing because you don't have to be unconscious to have a concussion - its absolutely brutal and yes boxers fight through fights with concussions more often than not, and Vargas vs Tito was a prime example of that. It is extremely easy to have a concussion - and considering he ate the left hook of a prime Trinidad in the first round where Tito was at 100% - hell yea that dude had a concussion. You go 12 rounds with a swollen brain and you aren't going to be the same.

Proof that Vargas was damaged? His next fight after Trinidad against Wilfredo Rivera a guy who doesn't even have a 50% ko ratio, dropped Vargas in the second round with a weak ass right hand lol. You go from going 12 rounds with Trinidad, eating right hand after right hand, left hook after left hook - to getting dropped by Wilfredo Rivera?

Thats what you call "getting ruined"

 

John Mugabe was wrecked by Hagler.

 

There are a lot of fighters, but their career got cut short after a loss.

 

One more thing iceveins,

If he only did a few things well in his game but didn't have any special abilities, than there is no way in heck he would have beaten Ike Quartey/Winky Wright (close), or even schooling Raul Marquez the way he did.

Vargas new his **** in that ring man, and he was a fantastic compact puncher with power in both hands and great accuracy with decent punch per punch speed as well. His jab, right hand, lead left uppercut, inside the pocket right uppercut were all exceptional. Its the type of stuff that let him beat A level guys like Quartey/Winky and enough to go to war with legends like Trinidad/Hoya.

 

Roy looked bad in the first fight with Tarver, he should've never came back to 175.

 

Two important names missing (after four pages).


George Foreman.

and


Mike Tyson.

 

myth. what myth? vargas beat two of the beast fighters in the game in wright and quartey. wright was in his prime back then and not the safety first, technical boring fighter he was in recent years.

quartey was an undefeated fighter ( he was robbed in the de la hoya fight). many felt at the time that vargas was rushing things by going into the ring with a fighter like ike. vargas had only fought 18 or 19 times but beat quartey comfortably on the score cards. for someone to do this with only a handful of fights, shows they are a very good fighter. not someone who's overrated like you're suggesting.

vargas also beat the tough yory boy campas to take the IBF title in 7 rounds. we all know what a solid chin he had. he beat marquez as well.

in his 21st fight, he gave one of the best P4P fighters in the world a hard, tough fight. this doesn't sound like a fighter who was overrated or a "myth" as you say. i would also call vargas a fighter who had world class talent. he didn't always use it, granted, but he had it.

how many fighters can you name that had this kind of resume in such a short period of time?

take all the time you need. coz you're gonna need it to find many fighters that can match it.

 

tszyu wasn't in his prime when he fought hatton, but he wasn't far removed from it. just a bad style for him to deal with. he never moved well on the back foot, which is where he was in the whole fight. any other fighter at 140 would of been wiped out by tszyu.

 

WHAT!?!? it doesn't matter how old vargas was. a fighter can be ruined at any age. you're talking some serious ****.

 

Riddick Bowe.

 

Vargas. Bajado. Hamed.

 

Because What Chavez did MIGHT have been just "Icing the cake". but you dont know. He had his wars before Chavez.

 

I can see the reason for saying Naz but in fairness it was coming and it wasn't the defeat that ruined his career so much as his loss of hunger, hadn't he been put on his arse in something like his 3 previous fights and didn't he start to get pissed off leaving his kids for training camps, understandable to punt on him but I reckon there's better examples of fighters who's careers were solely

 

I seriously can't believe there's only one mention of this... Incredible breaking of an image

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