Which fighter iyo could stand toe to toe with a prime foreman. And win?

Liston. He did it in sparring (although it was a young foreman)

 

It is not truth at all.... Foreman said that their sparring sessions were brutal but liston did not "beat him" and george was 18.irrelevant argument

 

If Mercer can stand toe to toe with a 240lb 6ft 6inch Lewis he can stand up to Big George.

Lewis has been Kod but has absolutely not been beaten in a dog fight, he's always shown plenty of heart, grit and power, ala Bruno, Vitali, Mercer, Tyson.

Holyfield during periods of the fight stood toe to toe with George and done fine.

Bowe would win, bigger and better inside fighter.

George had absolutely terrible cross guard defense and swung away widely with his huge clubbing blows. Massive massive strong puncher with a Granite Chin but the above boxers would do fine against him in the pocket imo

 

Vitali might get it done.

I'd pick Lennox over George maybe, but probably not by going toe to toe.

Liston ? Maybe but probably not.
Tyson ? Same as Liston.

Can't think of too many others.


It should be remembered however, that when 32 year old Ali traded with 25 year old George, Ali got the better of him

 

Lennox Lewis certainly could beat Foreman toe to toe. That Lewis right hand was one of the best in the division. With that said I would pick others like Liston, Louis and maybe Holyfield. Lewis`s mentaliy wasn't of a brawler. He would hestitate.

 

Above this i have placed a quote of yours from ages back. The talk was whether Tyson hit harder than Foreman and Shavers. In this instance common opponents areclaimed to have said Foreman hit harder than Tyson so you have embraced it 100%. You said it's not even debatable so i reckon i'm not the only one placing merit in boxers peers opinions. At times i don't place much faith in it but when you have an extended list i.e. Shavers hitting harder than Foreman it's cut and dried.

Leroy Cardwell said Shavers hit plenty harder than Foreman and co. The best knock out is irrelevant we know he hits a ton.

Foreman's best 3 knockouts first career were Norton, Frazier and Lyle. Shavers also pole axed Norton and tho he lost he sat Lyle on his behind too but unfortunately dropped him right on the bell!!!

Have a look at how hard Shavers dropped Lyle with a single left hook here at 5.58. Lyle was quite likely saved by the bell. What a left hook. Shavers never fought Joe.

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P.S. Shavers also stopped a pre-prime version of Young and dropped him (in a draw) the fight before he schooled Ron Lyle. Foreman didn't actually drop Young tho he did hurt him badly.

Peak Lyle barely won a round against Young in two fights.

Foreman could come back and win after being hurt, yes. Lewis did too as you say he was drunk by Bruno and he certainly came back to win.

Cherry picking a Lewis who struggled one night in order to promote your stance won't cut it. Put peak Lewis in with the Foreman who struggled with Lyle and Foreman's in big trouble. Put Holmes in there and Foreman probably loses. IMO quite a few would have beaten Foreman that night that would not have beaten him pre Ali. That's my stance. a sitting back Foreman at this stage didn't seem to work very well. It worked ok later when he was a vastly different fighter.

Also there's no guarantee any version of Lyle would have stopped this version of Lewis. Lewis leveled a lot of people.

 

Well.too long post i agree with several things you said and i disagree with part of the post.
Yes. I used the words of common rivals of tyson and foreman as proof of george hitting harder.BUT!!! The facts in the ring supported the words here!!! It is not the case with shavers .i never said that i believed the words of leroy the guy said that shavers did hit harder than lyle and foreman combinated ,it is absolutely laughable.i just used him at example. The version of norton that foreman stopped was not the finished version that shavers knocked.out

 

Lmao!!!! So it is valid with shavers but not with lyle right? You ask me about the best ko by lyle as evidence of his power and i do the same with shavers. But shavers is a vip user he does not need any great ko to support his power lol

 

I am sure you was born after 1990. Go to watch tennis.what a ****ing ******ed.
Lewis was not even a fully 6'5 fighter much less 6'6. Also you are saying that if anyone is taller and heavier then he will be better exchanging blows or his hitting power will be bigger..riddick bowe was very very easy to hit and it would be a big problem against george You are a complete simpleton

 

Every common opponent of Foreman and Shavers said Shavers hit harder, not just Cardwell. I fail to see how Cardwells words are laughable.

 

You've totally lost me but all good. I'm sure most get the gist of it all.

 

I see the only way Lewis loses to Foreman is to go toe to toe like he did against a Michael Grant .. if Lennox boxes behind his jab he'd eventually land a big right hand sooner or later .. the question is if George could keep it together as his own nasty Jab could make a fight w Lennox a pick em if he did ..

 

I’m trying to think outside the box here a little...maybe Nikolai Valuev or Jim Jeffries?

 

Yeah maybe.. The english is not my idiom so maybe it could be the motive.but explain me,i am spanish but not stupid

 

All good mate. We'd go around in circles anyway at this point. Both had their say.