Which fighters are IYO top 10 H2H in 2 of the traditional 8 weight classes?

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  1. Kittikasem

    Kittikasem Guest

    I nominate
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    at welterweight and middleweight.

    I nominate
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    at lightweight (obviously) and welterweight (see SRL and Palomino fights).

    I think
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    is a lock for lightweight, and considering his performances in McGirt II and Chavez, may also make it for welterweight, but unsure because of the historical depth of that division. That one could be debated.


    What fighters do you believe make this very very select group?

    I'm assuming
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    will receive some strong nominations?

    Who else?

    :bbb

    Let's make a definitive list!
     
    Kittikasem, May 29, 2011
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Greb, langford, fitz at middle and lightheavy.
     
    lufcrazy, May 29, 2011
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Some mentions using only guys of who there is decent footage.


    Fly: Canto

    Bantam: Zarate, Jofre

    Featherweight: Saddler, Armstrong, Pep

    Lightweight: Duran, Whitaker, Armstrong

    Welterweight: Robinson

    Middleweight: Robinson, Monzon, Hagler,

    Light-Heavy: Conn, Charles

    Heavy: Ali, Louis
     
    McGrain, May 29, 2011
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  4. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Harada at Fly and Bantam
    Napoles at Light and welter
    Robinson at Welter and Middle
    Burley at Welter and Middle
    Walker at welter and middle
     
    AlFrancis, May 29, 2011
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  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Possibly Roy Jones at 160 & 175 ?
     
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  6. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Ive put a red cross beside the ones that are too debateable to say yes too.
     
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  7. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Armstrong for FW & LW
     
    Bill Butcher, May 29, 2011
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  8. D.T

    D.T Guest

    Heavyweight = Muhammad Ali or Evander Holyfield or Larry Holmes
    Welterweight = SRR or Tommy Hearns
     
    D.T, May 29, 2011
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  9. Twelve

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    -Armstrong for FW, LW, and WW. Phenom.
    -You could make a case for Charles at MW, LHW, and HW.
    -Holyfield at CW and HW
    -Joe Gans I would favor greatly at WW, and I have him #1 at LW H2H and legacy-wise.
    -JCC could make it for FW, LW, and possibly WW.
    -Whitaker is tops at LW and WW.
    -Pac and Floyd have a case for top 15 LW and WW, but not top 10.

    Just my contribution.
     
    Twelve, May 29, 2011
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  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Langford : WW , MW , LHW
    Robinson : WW , MW
    Burley : WW , MW (I am pretty sure he could have made WW even in his
    own days given the motivation)
    Armstrong : FW , LW , almost top 10 @ WW
    Barney Ross : LW , WW (although borderline at each)
     
    frankenfrank, May 31, 2011
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  11. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Fixed.
     
    Boxed Ears, May 31, 2011
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  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If we're dealing with almosts , or top 15 h2h in 2 weight classes then :
    JMM and Pacquiao are probably top 15 @ FW & LW .
    Duran , DLH , Mosley borderline top 15 @ LW & WW.
    Greb top 15 @ MW , borederline top 15 @ LHW.
     
    frankenfrank, May 31, 2011
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  13. Kittikasem

    Kittikasem Guest

    Yeah McGrain, this guy is correct:

    Maybe I didn't explain it well enough, but
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    Kittikasem, May 31, 2011
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  14. Kittikasem

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    CW was not one of the traditional 8 weight classes, so that's an invalid choice. Also, JCC never fought at FW after his 1st few fights, he never competed at world level til he got to sfw, and I think it's pretty obvious he was nowhere near one of the 10 best ww's ever h2h.
     
    Kittikasem, May 31, 2011
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  15. Kittikasem

    Kittikasem Guest

    I think Holyfield only fought at lhw once or twice right at the beginning of his career. Cancel that one out.
     
    Kittikasem, May 31, 2011
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