Which fighters from boxing history would have beat Floyd Mayweather Jr?

Pryor was a careless fighter, although that style worked for him most of the time. He wasn't exactly Whitaker when it came to defense. Duran wasn't all about offense. He would find Pryor much easier than you think.

 

You are underrating Duran to an absurd extent if you feel he was that limited.

Pryor said he knew he couldn't win by brawling? That is how he won! Let him come in on Duran like that and see how he fares. And I'm sorry, you need movement and great ability to fight off the backfoot to give Duran any issues with your boxing ability, and Pryor had nowhere near the pure boxing ability to trouble Duran greatly.

You're way overrating Pryor by giving him abilities he never even showed while underrating Duran to make him seem like a B level fighter.

 

You're probably right. I am no expert on Duran.

I just call it how I see it. Duran got frustrated when fights weren't going his way. Look at the Benitez fight. If Aaron Pryor wasn't getting the better of the exchanges in an inside fight, what makes you think he wouldn't look to go on the outside and jab? He did it against Arguello, and Alexis arguably poses more stylistic problems than a 140 Duran.

 

He shown the ability to box in Arguello fight, where for a few rounds he was up on his toes, making Arguello look like a B level fighter. Alexis couldn't deal with boxers, and neither could Duran. This wasn't at lightweight, this is at Pryor's domain. He isn't getting stopped, and he would be just as busy if not busier than Duran's punch output.

How do you think a fight between Duran vs Pryor goes at 140?

 

Yeh I'd give Locche a 50/50 depends how often Pryor can land.

 

Look at Duran knockouts at lightweight Roberto had some serious power, I think Pryor was more of the grind you down kind of fighter then Duran. I mean Roberto was able to drop a guy like Barkley who was a big middleweight and had a good chin. I don't think he had much more power but I feel he was the more powerful hitter compared to Pryor.


Plus Duran did knockout a horse when he was young. :yep

 

Well, listen to this my friend. Duran's ability to close the distance on Pryor is pretty much from a different stratosphere to what Arguello was capable of doing. Arguello needed to get set before getting off. Duran is pretty much the polar opposite. Duran's much more comfortable than Arguello when fighting a high paced battle.

And another important thing that needs to be added here. Duran was extremely smart when mounting his attacks. Watch the Leonard fight when both were at long range. Duran countered like a demon when stepping in. Overhand rights and left hooks. And if you watch the 2nd round where Duran rocks Leonard, he's on the outside boxing with him, before stepping into mid-range territory. Overhand right, followed by a half hook/uppercut. Pryor IMO would get caught with these type of punches against Duran. No question about it.

 

Do you see Pryor also landing a lot on Duran and who do you think possess more punch power and punch resistance?

 

Fighters I would favour over PBF:


Napoles ( a bit unfair, he was naturally far bigger than Floyd)
Whitaker
Duran
Pryor
Hearns (the same like Napoles)
SRL (the same like Napoles)
JCC
Benny Leonard
Loi
perhaps Gans

 

Duran isn't going to come forward constantly looking to take Pryor's head off like some crazed human windmill with his fists. He would look to set traps and capatlize on Pryor unorthodox style and leaky defense. Yes Duran could be relentless with his aggression for periods of fights, but he was also smart with it. Duran was patient when on the outside and countered over his opponents mistakes at long range. Timing and anticipation he had in abundance. IMO he has the ability to step in with hooks and catch Pryor, when as you said Pryor pumps the jab at long range looking to outscore Duran.

And Pryor was prone to getting caught with shots up the middle. He wasn't an eductaed boxer like Whitaker or Leonard. Defensively he was poor, simply because he was wreckless and unorthodox. His offense was his defense. And once he was at mid-range he was vulnerable. Dujuan Johnson from the Kronk floored Pryor when he got carelesss. Sometimes he forgot what was coming his way because he was so offensively minded.

 

Napoles started at LW, he holds no bigger a size advantage on Floyd than Duran does.

 

Do us all a favor a sign out for good.:good

 

With Pryor's come-forward style playing directly into Duran's hands, as Duran was the far more skilled inside fighter and Pryor would be within range at all times. Also, as I've mentioned, when Arguello went to the body Pryor seemed uncomfortable, so against a fighter much more suited to fighting in close quarters he's going to be uncomfortable a lot. Duran would possibly stop him after breaking him down to the body over 15, if not UD him.

 

Duran isn't stopping Aaron Pryor.

 

And you know this how? Honestly, how often did Pryor prove himself for you to make a statement like that? His best wins are over past prime versions of Arguello and Cervantes, otherwise not much.

Pryor's style plays directly into Duran's hands and if we ever saw Pryor uncomfortable, it was when Arguello was going to the body. Put him in with a better body puncher and inside fighter for 15 rounds and I think there's a strong possibility.