Which Fighters have the Best Tools today?

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  1. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Jab:

    RH:

    LH:

    RU:

    LU:

    Footwork:

    Head movement:

    Boxing IQ:

    Conditioning:

    For me, its a tossup between Froch and the Klitchkos with the jab. Amir Khan also has a decent jab.

    Jhonny Gonzalez probably has the best RH today. Maidana, Randall Bailey also deserves mention. I still feel Miranda has an awesome RH, pity he can't connect with it.

    Donaire has the best LH although if we are talking about straight lefts, then its a tossup between Pacquaio, Bute and Sergio.

    Footwork would probably be Donaire again, love how he moves in and out of range. Mayweather, Pacquaio, Sergio, Dirrell are up there as well.

    Head movement is undoubtedly Mayweather. Donaire and Dirrell are up there as well.

    Boxing IQ would have to be Hopkins and Ward.

    Conditioning would probably be Paul Williams and Shumenov. Relentless punch output.
     
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  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    jesus christ you think shumenov has one of the best conditioning in the sport?
     
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  3. Farmboxer

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    Klitschkos!!!!!!!
     
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  4. slo100

    slo100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Klitschko's are the new Chuck Norris for you.
     
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  5. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    In his last fight it seemed like his defense was to smother the other guy with punches. It was like Paul Williams type output but more steady.
     
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  6. stocks

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    Here is my list:

    Defensive Fighter: Floyd Mayweather

    Fastest Fighter: Amir Khan

    Best Jab: Wladimir Klitschko

    Best Offensive Fighter: Manny Pacquiao

    Best Brawler: Victor Ortiz

    Best Chin: Vitali Klitschko
     
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  7. ross1690

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    Defensive Fighter: Floyd Mayweather

    Fastest Fighter: SERGIO MARTINEZ

    Best Jab: Wladimir Klitschko

    Best Offensive Fighter: SERGIO MARTINEZ

    Best Brawler: Victor Ortiz

    Best Chin: CARL FROCH
     
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  8. stocks

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    Chin is a good shout! Carl has a granite chin.
     
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  9. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    Best

    Jab-Wlad
    Right hand(hook/straight)-Floyd
    Left Hand(hook/straight)-Pacquiao
    Left/right uppercut-Berto
    Combination-JMM
    Footwork-Pacquiao
    IQ-Granny Hopkins
    handspeed-Khan
    conditioning-pacquiao
    upperbody/head-floyd
    chin-zakman
    worst fanbase-floyd's
     
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  10. Hitman-Fan

    Hitman-Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :p
     
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  11. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jab: Wlad

    RH: Floyd

    LH: Sergio

    Footwork: Pacquiao

    Head movement: Floyd

    Boxing IQ: Bernard

    Conditioning: Pacquiao
     
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  12. Hitman-Fan

    Hitman-Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lets get something straight right now

    Best Defence - FMJ

    Most conditioned fighter is FMJ not Pacquiao

    FMJ never tires in the ring and if you see him jump rope you would know he is far better conditioned than Pacquiao
     
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  13. shinobi108

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    Jab: Cotto/Klitschko

    RH: Hayemaker

    LH: Cotto

    RU: Victor Ortiz

    LU: Margarito

    Footwork: Pacquaio

    Head movement: Mayweather/Martinez

    Boxing IQ: Mayweather/Hopkins

    Conditioning: Froch
     
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  14. Boxinglad123

    Boxinglad123 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both are at the top of the sport in terms of conditioning, but at the pace Pacquiao fights, it is impossible to say Floyd has better conditioning. Floyd is more economical, but look at the pace Pac fought against a larger guy in Margarito ans you'll see why Pacquiao has to be rate higher.
     
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  15. slo100

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    And funnily enough you all seem to think if you jumbled up all these various boxers "styles" of throwing these punches or possessing these particular qualities you would expect to produce some Frankenstein super-boxer. Maybe if a particular boxer had the "footwork" of boxer (A) and the boxing IQ of boxer (B) then he wouldn't be able to produce the famed power of boxer (C) due to lack of foundation for generating power(footwork/not "sitting down on punches") or too much intelligence to be wreckless enough to throw (take risks and commit to a punch)... just my theory but you can't dissect a fighters strengths as if there are no intangibiles at play.
     
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