Which fighters suffered the most through sharing an era with another fighter?

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  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Carr was a very high skilled operator. He could box.
     
  2. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Lots of good picks on this thread. Here are a couple no one has mentioned.

    Jerry Quarry was a second tier fight because the top tier was Ali, Frazier, Foreman. As a matter of fact Foreman recently claimed Quarry was the only guy he intentionally avoided.

    Danny Lopez seemed like he was going to hang on to his title for a lot longer until sanchez came along.
     
  3. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    jeez what about segundo mercado,

    he would have virtually been world champion if bernard hopkins wasent campaigning at middleweight.
     
  4. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Well, Hopkins ruined him, just like he did Joe Lipsey who was seen as a second Hagler at the time.
     
  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why didn't Lipsy ever fight again post Hopkin's?
     
  6. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Never heard why but it seems that some fighters never came back after beeing beaten by Bernard - it´s like he took the will out of them.
     
  7. BENNY BLANCO

    BENNY BLANCO R.I.P. Brooklyn1550 Full Member

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    Esteban DeJesus having to share the same era with Roberto Duran.
     
  8. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arguello's choosing Pryor was a mark of character -he easily could have challenged another 140 titlist (Leroy Haley or Mamby) and beat them handily. He chose to challenge the best of the bunch.
     
  9. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Kid Gavilan would have been the dominant p4p in the late 40s and early 50s if not for Robinson. Perhaps his status would have averted all those bad decisions against him...
     
  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    McGirt did rebound well, but no Meldrick Taylor and McGirt is pick-em to take Chavez's '0' IMO.

    Maybe he was always going to fall slightly short, but I always thought Davis Jr could of, but did not.

    Liston, Frazier and Foreman all have much longer reigns if one Muhammad Ali were not around IMO.

    Valdez would be much higher up the all-time Middleweight rankings without Monzon around.

    Hedgemon Lewis wins the 147 crown without Napoles IMO.

    LaMotta without Robinson may of been considered an even better fighter.

    Jeffries without Johnson is higher up the Heavyweight rankings as well.
     
  11. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Teenage Speed Demon Wesley Mouzon beat guys like Rodak, Bucca and Giosa, fought to a draw against Ike Williams and then KOd Bobcat Montgomery in a nontitle bout. He was stopped in the return and suffered a detached retina. That ended it for him. He was 19!

    Had Montgomery not ended his career, I think that Mouzon was destined to take over the LWs and we'd be talking about his chances against Duran on this site...
     
  12. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everyone had to suffer Sam Langford.
     
  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Not necisarily.

    One could always drraw the colour bar.
     
  14. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Wilfredo Gomez to an extent if he never bumped into Sal Sanchez, although he is still viewed as a top top ATG, but who knows, may have been higher had sal not came along.

    Antonio Cervantes was unforunate to run into Benitez as up until then he went on a dominant run, avenging his loss to Locche as well in compellign fashion. Had Benitez not came on the scene at 17 then Antonio may have been looked at a lot higher in a ATG list.
     
  15. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Eusebio Pedroza accomplished a lot as Featherweight champion but he was definitely in Sanchez's shadow and that shadow just gets bigger and bigger as the years go by.

    I also think Alfredo Escalera could have been Jr. Lightweight champ for a couple more years and several more defenses had Arguello not moved up.