Which fighters would have benefitted the most from not being nuts?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by HawkFan16, Jan 7, 2012.


  1. HawkFan16

    HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime Full Member

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    Simple question. For example, both Golota and Ortiz were/are both talented boxers who have underachieved because, well, they're both of unsound mind. Who do y'all think would have been a better fighter/achieved more if they didn't have such obvious mental limitations? Feel free to throw out other shouts as well.
     
  2. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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  3. HawkFan16

    HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime Full Member

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    Good one. His chin was superhuman, for sure, but I think his problems were more drug-related than inherently being nuts. He was erratic for sure, but I don't know how much better he would have been if he were a little more normal. I mean, McCall had fits with an ancient Larry Holmes and was outboxed by Frank Bruno, so I don't think he had a super high ceiling that he failed to realize. I think he came close to realizing his potential (though a sober McCall absolutely doesn't break down in the ring and start crying against Lewis.) :patsch
     
  4. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valero...that guy was a straight up nutjob.
     
  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Ike Ibeabuchi. Edwin Valero.
     
  6. HawkFan16

    HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime Full Member

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    Well, their personal lives, sure (one wouldn't be in jail, the other would still be alive). But I was thinking about the question more in terms of how a fighter's mental state affected their in-ring performances. Ike and Valero were certainly nuts, but they didn't show ill effects in the ring like Golota or Ortiz did/do. Perhaps I should have clarified this question better at the start. My bad folks :patsch
     
  7. bobalachko

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    Valero the one that stands out the most
     
  8. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    zab judah shouldve been the first mentioned
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Edison Miranda a little maybe?

    Over the past year+, their past few fights, Abraham and Mosley should get some kind of mention for being the most passive attitudes in the game. They're both just "whatever" when they fight. So chill it's weird. In interviews and what not as well. Nobody would've guessed that about these two of all people just a couple years ago.

    Abraham's lull begins when he came over to face Dirrell, getting bossed around not throwing plus the mental lapse of wacking Dirrell.

    Mosley's begins with Round 5 or so vs. Mayweather when he just wanted to touch gloves and acknowledge good shots.
     
  10. timagen

    timagen Guest

    Tyson of coarse