Which former heavyweight champs could 'Tokyo' Tyson have beaten?

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  1. mark ant

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    Which heavies that had been world champ could Tyson from te Douglas fight have beaten if he could have met them when they had a title in their respective eras?
     
  2. dmt

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    I am a fan of Marciano and Frazier, and Dempsey but Tokyo Tyson still beats them.

    Tyson's edge in handspeed and power is too much. Any pre-prison version of Tyson beats Marciano and Frazier. Dempsey has comparable speed but isn't as big and strong. None of these fighters could last more than 4 rounds vs Tyson and take advantage of a tiring Tyson.

    Tokyo Tyson obviously beats Norton (who couldn't handle punchers of that caliber), Braddock, Schmeling, Charles, Walcott, Patterson. None of these guys have the power to keep Tokyo off them. It does not matter how skilled they are, they can't beat him because they can't hit with enough force to keep him off them.

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    Any pre-Dempsey heavyweights could have never faced someone with the combination of speed and power that Tyson had. From all the footage I have seen of Jack Johnson, I just cannot see his defense being able to neutralize

    Tokyo Tyson loses to Ali, Foreman, Liston, Louis, and Holmes.

    I could see a motivated Tim Witherspoon beating Tokyo Tyson.

    Holyfield beats Tokyo Tyson. Lewis probably too (though best version of Tyson beats best version of Lewis IMO). I would probably give Bowe the edge over that version of Tyson too.
     
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    He'd probably beat a crap,off day version of Ali, from 1975 on ward.
    Beats Joe Frazier from 75 on wards. Possibly beats Joe Louis in his final days as champ, the one that should have lost to Walcott.
    He could possibly pull of another upset by facing Marciano, in his last couple of title fights. Rocky would really have his hands full against the bigger, taller, more skilled Buster. But it's an hard one to call as Rocky would be in good condition for this unlike Tyson.
    A lot depends on the attitude and conditions of the fight and the fighters themselves.
     
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    Deontey Wilder, Anthony Joshua, both Spinks brothers, Patterson,
    Charles,Walcott, Ruiz, Jones, Sharkey,Scmeling, . Tyson wasn't
    what he was, but he wasn't far from what he was either.
     
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    I think a more interesting question would be: "Which all-time great could Tokyo Douglas have beaten?"

    I ask this because I keep hearing from Tyson apologists that Tokyo Douglas was Ares or at least Achilles incarnate.
     
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