Discussion in 'European Boxing Forum' started by LomachenkoP4PNo1, Oct 9, 2018.
........... Schwarz I'd say. He's improving with every fight.
Kabayel. And maybe Huck if he isn't shot. We find out if he starts to fight solid opposition.
Pervizaj, Thun and Pfeifer are prospects although Pfeifer is 31.
I think they all have some talent but it's only theory. Adapting to the pro game is a different thing. I do not see anything special there.
Wallisch, Schwarz and Gashi are crap boxers. Domestic german level and the level is pretty LOW tbh. Schwarz might be the best of those three and would beat Wallisch and Gashi but overall the all protected bums with **** resume because everyone knows they would be violently destroyed if they would even fight strong euro level fighters.
Schwarz fought already Gashi, two fights ago, few months previous. There he needed a corrupt referee, acted to avoid a defeat/ made a Dirrell and after it was called off, it went put of controll, as Schwarz had a brawl with Gashis corner/ trainers and their prodigee.
I know but Schwarz would beat Gashi in a rematch.
Depends on shape/ focus. But he didn't looks good the first time/ was in big trouble and without the point-redictions (only the first was justified) behind on the cards. The he had the aid/ Support of the organizer Steinfort.
But Illija Mendzikin outboxed Schwarz und almost stopped him early, as he's more skillful, especially faster than him, but had no Experience for longer distances. The size difference between them was devastant, as who is actual a (natural) Cruiserweight and was outweighted by about 20Kg.
Schwarz is terrible but Gashi either, Gashi is a dirty fighter who troubles his opponents with that kind of style and Schwarz is too one dimensional to answer with solid boxing skills. I would pick Schwarz over Gashi in a rematch but still Schwarz is terrible and his record is a joke although there is a 0.
German HW scene is a bad joke.
Kabayel is the best out there without a question and Huck of course can do some **** but he only had one comeback fight so let's see.
Apart from that....DARK TIMES.
Depends if you rate Alexander Dittmeier (Dimitrenko) as German. Well Kabayal got 1 - 2 gifts too, maybe in Turkey (vs. Oluokun among others), is overweight, limited and a poor man's Sinan Samil Sam, but he is around the current top 20 or close to it. While I rank the current Helenius higher than him. Teper vs. Kabayal would be a (slow) battle of two Öner-promoted obese Turkish punchers .
But Schwarz was acting like a drama-queen, as the last 2 - 3 "headbutts" were narrowly nothIn and he probably barely had felt these. He clearly was looking for an easy way out. But last time he improved and seemed to be in better shape, trained by Ulli Laden, since he had to left Dirk Dzemsky. Would like to See him against Hughie-Bear Fury, Charr or Huck.
Gashi gave a good fight, but Schwarz was the better man.
As for the Mezencev fight I have no idea what you are talking about or maybe you are getting mixed up. Schwarz was stronger and better than him all night long and knocked him out.
I don't understand the stick Schwarz gets on here. He is a young guy with some talent there is no need for this hate. He will at least win a Euopean title.
Schwarz and Kabayel are about the same level. That would be an interesting fight between them. Both are young and can improve.
Pfeifer was a high quality amateur who won Bronze medals at the Olympics and World Champonships, and did very well in the APB league.
But the last 2 or 3 years of being an amateur his form seemed to dip/he seemed to regress. If he can get his form back, he could be a threat.
Maybe more clever (in Haye and Dirrell terms, which can be called cowardlyt too) , but not better in boxing, he won maybe One round, without help of the referee. Gassi outworked and partly even outboxed him mostly in the first 4 -5 Rounds. But it was a poor/ weak Performance, especially of Tom Schwarz.
Have you even watched the fight? Mezenkijew knocked him down in the first round and was rather dominating the first 3 - 4 rounds, maybe overpaced he and let himself going to often into brawl. But he was clearly the more skillful and gifted of these two, as he has the better technique, is quicker and more agile. Schwarz only turned it around as he's bigger, one or two weight-classes, like Fury wore Cunningham down, with roughhouse-tactics.
In a rematch I favour the opponent here, if he had continued to improve, as he's at a similar age or even younger.
Are you a Schwarz- fan, relative of him or employee of SES?
Perhaps because of influation of the European titles, but when only one championship of it existed, was it possible more important than a major world title partly. Axel Schulz didn't even won one, just as Kim Weber, Adolf Heuser, Hein ten Hoff and Heinz Neuhaus; all of them were at least 1 - 2 levels superior than Tom Schwarz. He is rather comparable with Timo Hoffmann, Willy Fischer (who was better too than him), Mario Schieser or Rene Dettweiler.
Ilja Menzencev is probably Germany 's best hope at cruiser. He had just turned 21, had fought a bunch of Czech no-hopers before he faced Schwarz, a true heavy with far more experience Nevertheless the young German-Russian made the water extremely hot for Schwarz . A little bit more experienced version of Ilya would have beaten Schwarz IMO. Kabayel is the best german based heavy right now. The German-Russian Erik Pfeiffer could have gone far in the paid ranks if he had turned pro a couple of years ago. Like Helenius he used to be a very wayward fighter at the amateurs. I don't think that he has the determination to test the real deep territories behi d the horizon. He is simply too old.
Wallisch is not a protected bum He is just not mentally ready to fight professionally. He shows a shocking lack of motivation and determination. The talent, the chin the heart and the punch is there as could be seen in his brutal fight with Saglam a few, years ago. Remember Alexander Frenkel or Thomas Ullrich! There are fighters who are just not able to fight at the pros Doesn't mean they are bums. Would like to see how many seconds you are able to go with those bums.
Ahhh, i love those comments after talking about fighters. LMAO
Wallisch should call it a career then if he hasn't found motivation yet. Bum attitude.